texashuntingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
Josh-04512, dblmikeusa1, Hog-Pro, 4Notch, Niknoc76
72042 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
dogcatcher 110,795
bill oxner 91,416
SnakeWrangler 65,518
stxranchman 60,296
Gravytrain 46,950
RKHarm24 44,585
rifleman 44,461
Stub 43,855
Forum Statistics
Forums46
Topics537,813
Posts9,729,428
Members87,042
Most Online25,604
Feb 12th, 2024
Print Thread
Apex Thermal Question #6713933 03/24/17 02:40 PM
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,005
H
HornSlayer Offline OP
Veteran Tracker
OP Offline
Veteran Tracker
H
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,005
Considering the view screen is a lcd, why does this scope have a slight parallax condition?


They make ammo specifically for hunting for a reason! nidea
Re: Apex Thermal Question [Re: HornSlayer] #6713948 03/24/17 02:53 PM
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 8,235
Double Naught Spy Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 8,235
Explain.


Hogdalorian - Si vis pacem cum sus, para bellum.
My Videos https://www.youtube.com/user/HornHillRange
Re: Apex Thermal Question [Re: HornSlayer] #6714014 03/24/17 03:36 PM
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,005
H
HornSlayer Offline OP
Veteran Tracker
OP Offline
Veteran Tracker
H
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,005
If I move my head slightly side to side the poa moves slightly on the image display.


They make ammo specifically for hunting for a reason! nidea
Re: Apex Thermal Question [Re: HornSlayer] #6714183 03/24/17 05:57 PM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,453
dfwroadkill Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,453
I went and drug mine out of the closet. Maybe I am missing something, but I don't see it in mine. In order for that to occur, the crosshairs would have to be mechanical like in the old models or there would otherwise have to bea way for the crosshairs to be projected separate from the image....I think...

Last edited by dfwroadkill; 03/24/17 06:48 PM.
Re: Apex Thermal Question [Re: HornSlayer] #6714213 03/24/17 06:30 PM
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,005
H
HornSlayer Offline OP
Veteran Tracker
OP Offline
Veteran Tracker
H
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,005
That is my thinking. Maybe I don't have the ocular lens adjusted right? My bigger problem is it also has a Horizontal misalignment problem of 3 moa between 30yrds and 80yrds. I don't see how to adjust the mount? Anyone else dealt with this problem?

Last edited by HornSlayer; 03/24/17 06:35 PM.

They make ammo specifically for hunting for a reason! nidea
Re: Apex Thermal Question [Re: HornSlayer] #6714244 03/24/17 07:08 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 369
N
Night Hunting TV Offline
Bird Dog
Offline
Bird Dog
N
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 369
It is possible the mount is crooked on the scope? Haven't see an shift on the ones I have used.

Last edited by bornforit; 03/24/17 10:11 PM.

Thermal & Night Vision Videos
Hog & Predator control
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/NightHuntingTv/
Youtube Channel - http://www.youtube.com/c/NightHuntingTV
Re: Apex Thermal Question [Re: HornSlayer] #6714284 03/24/17 08:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 3,069
MDMORROW Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 3,069
I haven't seen any parallax in a thermal. You sure its not just an optical illusion and the crosshairs aren't staying on target? Might have to put in a hard mount and I bet you find it's not actually displaying any parallax.


[Linked Image]
Re: Apex Thermal Question [Re: HornSlayer] #6714396 03/24/17 10:44 PM
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 406
F
fr3db3ar Offline
Bird Dog
Offline
Bird Dog
F
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 406
I don't see how parallax would be remotely possible. You're looking at a monitor.

Re: Apex Thermal Question [Re: HornSlayer] #6714423 03/24/17 11:17 PM
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 4,067
P
Pig_Popper Online Content
Extreme Tracker
Online Content
Extreme Tracker
P
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 4,067
Cheek weld to your stock must be repeatable and comfortable

In addition you'll want to lock that scope down at the sweet spot - typically when your eye is looking dead on center into the ocular rear objective

Since the scope doesn't have optical magnification you cannot experience parallax

The issue you're experiencing is due to 1 or more of the following :

You're moving your head and therefore your eyeballs around the optical center of the rear ocular lense while keeping the scope in a static position and focusing on a static point on the near eye display (LCD).

Most ocular rear objectives are either convex or concave and so this will make the brain see distortion due to the shape of the glass when you aren't following correct cheek weld and setup to the eyepiece.

Make sense?


This space is For Sale - inquire within ...
Re: Apex Thermal Question [Re: Pig_Popper] #6714508 03/25/17 12:49 AM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,453
dfwroadkill Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,453
Originally Posted By: Pig_Popper
Since the scope doesn't have optical magnification....


I agree overall, but the scope does have optical magnification.

Re: Apex Thermal Question [Re: HornSlayer] #6714591 03/25/17 02:36 AM
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,005
H
HornSlayer Offline OP
Veteran Tracker
OP Offline
Veteran Tracker
H
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,005
It is a concave lens so seeing the image at a slight angle would change the focal length to the display. I'm thinking I don't have the eye piece focused properly. I was taught to adjust the eyepiece where the display is in focus and readable? I wish I could shoot a video of what I am seeing. It's not the 4 moa horizontal deviation I have but it could be part of it?


They make ammo specifically for hunting for a reason! nidea
Re: Apex Thermal Question [Re: dfwroadkill] #6714630 03/25/17 03:55 AM
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 4,067
P
Pig_Popper Online Content
Extreme Tracker
Online Content
Extreme Tracker
P
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 4,067
Originally Posted By: dfwroadkill
Originally Posted By: Pig_Popper
Since the scope doesn't have optical magnification....


I agree overall, but the scope does have optical magnification.


....... Technically

I should clarify ..........

The scope does not have variable / adjustable magnification


This space is For Sale - inquire within ...
Re: Apex Thermal Question [Re: HornSlayer] #6714702 03/25/17 12:38 PM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,453
dfwroadkill Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,453
No, not just technically, the difference between the 38, 50 and 75 is the magnification of the attached optical lenses.

And it does have variable/adjustable magnification, but that is digital magnification...technically...

grin

Last edited by dfwroadkill; 03/25/17 12:40 PM.
Re: Apex Thermal Question [Re: HornSlayer] #6714730 03/25/17 01:23 PM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,453
dfwroadkill Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,453
What it doesn't have is variable/adjustable optical magnification. up

Re: Apex Thermal Question [Re: dfwroadkill] #6714805 03/25/17 03:36 PM
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 4,067
P
Pig_Popper Online Content
Extreme Tracker
Online Content
Extreme Tracker
P
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 4,067
Originally Posted By: dfwroadkill
What it doesn't have is variable/adjustable optical magnification. up


That's what I said roflmao


This space is For Sale - inquire within ...
Re: Apex Thermal Question [Re: HornSlayer] #6714885 03/25/17 06:05 PM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,453
dfwroadkill Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,453
LOL, no re-read it. rofl

Re: Apex Thermal Question [Re: HornSlayer] #6726816 04/06/17 02:21 AM
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,303
Bearclaw Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,303
The reticle is on the display, so there is no way to have any parallax issue. It may appear that there is a parallax issue or drift with change in cheek weld(and there would be if the reticle was not digital), but thermal weapon scopes do not require a collimated eye piece to eliminate parallax. aim

Re: Apex Thermal Question [Re: HornSlayer] #6727351 04/06/17 04:19 PM
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,789
Z
ZenArchery Offline
Pro Tracker
Offline
Pro Tracker
Z
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,789
Uhhhhhh.....

Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

© 2004-2024 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3