I'm just posting so I can keep an eye on this one.

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$10,000 for a mule deer is cheap? I've been down there twice, last time in 2006. Not a chance in hades I'd go back down there right now.

I think your the first person I've ever heard that described mule deer hunting in Sonora as cheap!

Easy there!

LOL @ TX

Paint with a braid brush much?

Fouz does know Mexico well both fishing and hunting. As far as 180" deer I think this one was well north of 180" in TX.

Chingow essay thats a nino where I hunt lol!!!! But nice deer though what did that cost you

Nice buck but I'm pretty sure it was killed behind a high fence. I'm also pretty sure scientific deer are involved some how on the ranch. Have nothing against it, just not my cup of tea.

Dang Jim, why all the hatred? I never said anything about low or high fence, manufactured deer like the one above or anything else other than no way I would hunt in Mexico and don't understand you guys who do. I completely appreciate the access to big ranches and native deer at a fraction of what it costs to lease a pasture of the same quality in Texas. For you and Txbuck to act like everything in northern Mexico is as safe as can be though? You know better.

I'd rather pay more and stay on this side of the river. Where I can travel freely night or day. That's all.

I went way back in '91. It was alright I guess.

I won't be going back. I ain't lost nothing down there in head-chopping country.

I have my own place and don't hunt much anywhere else. But sometimes I'll carry a breakfast taco to the blind with me and pretend I'm south of the river. I do have a High Fence that has about 1 acre enclosed for my garden to keep the deer out.
I am guilty of introducing better genetics inside the fence as you should see my tomatoes and watermelons!

Fouzman sorry if you took it that I was hating on you. Yes you are right it is not as safe as Texas, but it is also not as bad as people are making it out to be. I guess it just bothers me when people say things like I like my head to much. Or act like your for sure a dead man if you cross the river. In reality they probably have not been in Mexico lately to know what's even going on over there. Again sorry and I wish nothing but good things for you.

Many thanks, Jim. And likewise on the good wishes, amigo.

If hunting with reliable outfitter no problem.

that's what has kept me from doing a bass fishing trip

Have known Paul for 35 years and have hunted with him in Mexico several times. Just because you're in Mexico does not mean your going to kill a big buck, you have to be on the right ranch. There are a lot of ranches that you'd be lucky to kill a 150" deer on. I've hunted Mexico about 10 times, best buck I ever saw was one about 150". No doubt there are some giants in Mexico but do your homework on ranches, their not all the same.

Just like Texas

If you have any openings im interested! PLEASE pm me.

X 2 and let me know where to send the deposit!

I'm still waiting!

That's probably the key. Part of a group of guys I've hunted with off and on for over two decades ended up on a lease (on their own/no guide or outfitter) down there one year back in the mid '90s or so. Don't remember exactly where, but I know they crossed at Eagle Pass/Piedras Negras. First trip down and back was pretty uneventful. But the second trip, they ran into problems and ended up detained by the federalis and basically held and interrogated against their will even though they'd gone through all the necessary steps for transport of firearms/ammo, etc. At first, they figured it was a routine check of some sort, but soon turned into more than that.

In short, they ended up being able to buy their way out of it and got back home, but never even hunted that trip and were too scared to go back even though they'd paid money to hunt through the season.

https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/alertswarnings/mexico-travel-warning.html


Tamaulipas (includes Matamoros, Nuevo Laredo, Reynosa, and Tampico): U.S. citizens should defer all non-essential travel to the state of Tamaulipas due to violent crime, including homicide, armed robbery, carjacking, kidnapping, extortion, and sexual assault. The number of reported kidnappings in Tamaulipas is among the highest in Mexico. State and municipal law enforcement capacity is limited to nonexistent in many parts of Tamaulipas. Violent criminal activity occurs more frequently along the northern border and organized criminal groups may target public and private passenger buses traveling through Tamaulipas. These groups sometimes take all passengers hostage and demand ransom payments. U.S. government personnel are subject to movement restrictions and a curfew between midnight and 6 a.m. Matamoros, Reynosa, Nuevo Laredo, and Ciudad Victoria have experienced numerous gun battles and attacks with explosive devices in the past year.

Coahuila: Violence and criminal activity, including homicide, armed robbery, carjacking, kidnapping, extortion, and sexual assault, pose significant and continuing security concerns, particularly along the highways between Piedras Negras and Nuevo Laredo. U.S. citizens should defer non-essential travel to all parts of Coahuila, with the exception of travel to Saltillo, Bosques de Monterreal, and Parras de la Fuente. U.S. government personnel are only allowed to travel during daylight hours to Saltillo and Bosques de Monterreal, and must abide by an Embassy-imposed curfew of 1 a.m. to 6 a.m. U.S. government personnel may also travel to Parras de la Fuente and on toll Highway 40 to Highway 57 and only during daylight hours. State and municipal law enforcement capacity is limited in some parts of Coahuila, particularly in the north of the state.

Nuevo Leon (includes Monterrey): U.S. government personnel may travel outside the city of Monterrey only during daylight hours on toll roads, and must return to the city of San Pedro Garza Garcia municipal boundaries to abide by the Embassy-imposed curfew of 1 a.m. and 6 a.m., except for travel to the airport after 5 a.m.

Chihuahua (includes Ciudad Juarez, the city of Chihuahua, Ojinaga, Palomas, Nuevo Casas Grandes and Copper Canyon): Criminal activity and violence remains an issue throughout the state of Chihuahua and its major cities. Travel between cities only on major highways and only during daylight hours.

Ciudad Juarez: Exercise caution in all areas. U.S. government personnel are prohibited from traveling after dark west of Eje. Juan Gabriel and south of Boulevard Zaragoza. Defer non-essential travel to the areas southeast of Boulevard Independencia and the Valle de Juarez region.
Within the city of Chihuahua: Defer non-essential travel to the Morelos, Villa, and Zapata districts, where the travel of U.S. government personnel is restricted.
Ojinaga: When possible, travel via U.S. Highway 67 through the Presidio, Texas port-of-entry.
Palomas and the Nuevo Casas Grandes/Paquime region: When possible, travel via U.S. Highway 11 through the Columbus, New Mexico port-of- entry.
Nuevo Casas Grandes: U.S. government personnel are prohibited from traveling outside of city limits after dark.
Copper Canyon and other areas of the state of Chihuahua: U.S. citizens should defer non-essential travel.

If you think you are never in any danger you are sorely mistaken. Piedras Negras is a very violent place.