Seen any that only cost 50 bucks a person for 4 man teams and pay off with ~$45,000 for first, ~$30,000 for second, and ~$20,000 for third? That's what the cat contest pays.

I think pig hunts could actually pay off MUCH more than that. County org sponsorship would help.

There are pigs 3 counties east. Bobo's point was that the climate in big lake is too dry for pigs. I just made sure he knew he was wrong. As are you.

It's 20" a year annual rain fall. 5 less inches and that country looks like Roswell NM.

Every part of the county huh...well, guess those poor ranchers out there and those poor hunters just don't know what a hog looks like.

I will concede that I mistyped when I stated the "3 counties west of you". North of the river has hogs as well as Eden area. South of the lake and south of Paint Rock, nope. They are not in every part of the county and actually not in a pretty large portion of the center of the county.

There are also hogs around Big Lake. One really large ranch across the street from yours has killed a few...and the Irion border has a few but I couldn't honestly say how many have crossed that imaginary line into Reagan.

Again, they aren't missing there because of helicopters and hunters though. Comparing Big Lake or Paint Rock to other areas with hog problems isn't exactly apples to apples though. If we had them move in to our ranch, it would be much easier to keep them at bay than to go into East Texas and eradicate them. Not to mention, much easier to see and shoot them in our country from a helicopter.

Honest question: Has Reagan county ever had a hog problem?

It's 20" a year annual rain fall. 5 less inches and that country looks like Roswell NM.

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There are pigs around Crane and that is further west than Big Lake.

Every part of the county huh...well, guess those poor ranchers out there and those poor hunters just don't know what a hog looks like.

I will concede that I mistyped when I stated the "3 counties west of you". North of the river has hogs as well as Eden area. South of the lake and south of Paint Rock, nope. They are not in every part of the county and actually not in a pretty large portion of the center of the county.

There are also hogs around Big Lake. One really large ranch across the street from yours has killed a few...and the Irion border has a few but I couldn't honestly say how many have crossed that imaginary line into Reagan.

Again, they aren't missing there because of helicopters and hunters though. Comparing Big Lake or Paint Rock to other areas with hog problems isn't exactly apples to apples though. If we had them move in to our ranch, it would be much easier to keep them at bay than to go into East Texas and eradicate them. Not to mention, much easier to see and shoot them in our country from a helicopter.

Honest question: Has Reagan county ever had a hog problem?

There are pigs around Crane and that is further west than Big Lake. [/quote

That is fact! I hit one on motorcycle in Ector county right before you get into Crane county about 7 years ago! Will see them all the time coming to work. I work in Crane and have seen them south of Monahans before.

No. Reagan county hasn't ever had a problem. But ALL surrounding counties have. The difference is that they do predator control from choppers. County co-op. Every time they are up on a yote/cat hunt they kill any pig they see. It's real easy to do if you combine and focus your efforts on tactics that actually work.

Reagan co. is a perfect example of an excellent pig control strategy utilizing the very best method of control.

Regardless of what bs you choose to believe.

No my point wasn't it's to dry for pigs. It's Texas you could have 5" a year and still find ranches with water. My point was lack of heavy vegetation. My ranch averages 15-20" a year. You know how hard it would be for me to eliminate every deer and antelope on it from the ground? Much less the air... could clear it in a week on ground, and 3 days by air.

You said hogs don't exist in Reagan county anyways. Now let's talk ranches with actual ground and Ariel sight "limiting" vegetation like Webb or Mason......

There are pigs in monahans too.

Every once in a while BoBo takes his brain out and plays with it. This is one of those times.

Poor ol TxHuntr is playing with something short of a full deck 24/7 though. "There are no pigs 3 counties east of Reagan"... Lawd have mercy...

"It's 20" a year annual rain fall. 5 less inches and that country looks like Roswell NM."

That's exactly what you said. And I pointed out that there are thriving wild hog populations in counties that in fact do look like Roswell or worse.

I can and will control pigs here in Kerr Co. I've cut all my cedar and will begin helicoptering soon. It would have cost me twice as much before I cut the cedar. But a few thousand dollars more isn't going to stop that effort. We are in fact forming a local co-op to do predator control.

And let me assure you, if you can get rid of deer and antelope from the air you can certainly do it with pigs. The run like roaches from a chopper. As dependable as the sun coming up everyday.

Regardless of what bs you spout, saying the tactics that worked in a county that has never had a major pig problem, low vegetation, relatively minor elevation changes, isolated water, etc., could be used in other geographical areas is narrow sighted at best.

While it is "easy" to do in that county, implementing the same tactics in an area with greater elevation changes, heavier canopy, more river bottoms, etc., isn't the same. If we had hogs move into our ranch and surrounding areas in Concho, the same tactics would work great that worked for Reagan....in Longview, Texas, not so much.

But hey...keep thinking that your way is the only way and if you are doing it different you are an idiot. Sounds like the same thought of one of our other THF residents

How is the hog population there? Will it be a continuos effort or will it get to a point where it takes minimal effort to keep them at bay? Can you eliminate them completely or is the plan to keep them to a minimal level?

I admitted I was wrong on the county wide thing...at least I can admit when I say something stupid

I do stand by central Concho having none and would put money on it

None, zilch, zero in Reagan though...but the rockerb doesn't count I'm sure, or the ones on the Irion border

There are pigs around Crane and that is further west than Big Lake. [/quote

That is fact! I hit one on motorcycle in Ector county right before you get into Crane county about 7 years ago! Will see them all the time coming to work. I work in Crane and have seen them south of Monahans before.

I will be able to keep them at a VERY low level. It's a matter of effort and method. My place is covered in pigs on the thick side. Very few on the thin side. I have an 800 acre neighbor that has completely eradicated them from his place. I may never be able to completely eradicate them. But I'm gonna get real close.

This is getting better than HF-LF and 223 combined.

You say your's is one of those. I won't say that's not true. BUT, I'll call you a liar if you say they haven't done anything to control them.

I don't know anyone in the area that has done anything to control them. If they are doing anything, it is miles south of us around Eden. As far as anyone knows, they haven't crossed south of the river but I know three ranchers on the river and they do nothing and know of no one around them that does. I just know for 25 years, all I have heard is "any day now"

I also have no valid theory as to why we don't have them.

I read all this and find it interesting, Pigs / No Pigs, This county, that county.

In twenty years on our farms in Terry county, 40 miles south of Lubbock, I have never seen a pig, pig tracks or rooting. Eight separate farms in sections, halfs or quarters, south of Brownfield. I've asked the farmers and they say "No problems here".

Then I would fire up THF and see pictures of djones with piles of dead pigs from Lubbock or Terry County.

I don't really have a point to make here except that maybe both sides are correct. Location, location, location.

what is the secret to keep them controlled?

I've hunted mule deer in terry county three times. There were plenty of pigs on the property we hunted. Sandhills next to cattle pastures. There were a lot more on the place we hunt in cockran county though.

I'm sure there are parts of both counties they are controlled in. But there are pigs where they aren't controlled.