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2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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02/26/17 07:30 PM
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Have a hardy 2011 Kawasaki Mule 4010 Trans 4x4. Usually runs great. It has started having a new issue and I am beyond tired of trying to figure it out. If anyone has had this problem any advice would be great.
Starts up, idles fine, works fine in neutral. When you put it into gear it will either run fine for a few minutes or right away has no power. I mean barely wants to go. If it does start out fine, it will just all of a sudden drop power and start to drop speed, then crawl. Once again, you put it in neutral and it is fine.
Did this a few times on me before, but has been terrible since I drove through some flooding on the ranch.
Have changed the spark plugs, checked the fuel lines, tank,etc. Checked the air filters added fuel cleaner. Cleaned the spark arrester (i guess didnt seem like it did much). Removed the drain plug and unclogged the drain on torque converter.
Is there something I am missing? Could this be an issue with belt or pulley in the cvt??
Thanks!
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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02/26/17 07:48 PM
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Clutch maybe? Sounds more transmission related to me.
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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02/26/17 08:54 PM
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Just a guess but, I've seen a Polaris do the same thing. Does it think it's in reverse or neutral?
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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02/27/17 12:51 AM
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How did you solve the "wrong thinking"?
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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02/27/17 01:27 AM
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How did you solve the "wrong thinking"? Lmao!!! It was a friends and he ended up taking it to Polaris. They said it had a bad wiring harness. Most ATV/UTVS have a safety to keep you from an engine overspeed in neutral and or going to fast in reverse. I am NOT a UTV/ATV mechanic but have been a mechanic for many years... Where's the machine located, county, town or zip code?
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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02/27/17 02:46 PM
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I know there are 4010 gas units out there with lots of hours on them that have given no fuel issues but I had a 4010 gas that I was very happy with until it started giving me trouble after about 500 hours and I never did get it to stay right for over maybe 40-50 hours before it would screw up again, pretty much just like you describe. I would clean and lube the throttle body, change out the pump, drain the gas, etc. and she would be good for a while and then it would start over again. Never did get it right and spent a lot of time and money trying. Unreliable is unacceptable so I got rid of it and went to a diesel for my bird hunting rig. Hate to be a bearer of bad news but sure hope you will have better luck with the gas 4010 than I did.
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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02/27/17 03:50 PM
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It is located in Vanderpool, TX.
arandy- Ugh.. hope that is not the case! How is the diesel in noise compared to the gas? I would think substantially louder?
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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02/27/17 07:47 PM
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TenTen, the Pro DX is substantially louder than the 4010 gas but the Pro FX is louder than the 4010 too. I wish it was quieter and think I can remedy a lot of the noise with a better muffler but I'm not going to do anything that will cause the 3 year warranty to be voided so unless Kawasaki approves something probably will not fool with it. Don't bother me at all when I'm hunting anyway. The only person who has said anything about the noise says "huh" a lot. lol
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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02/27/17 07:56 PM
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LOL. Yeah, new development today with it. Hardly wants to move at all. Sputtering and hardly any power.
To the dealer it goes i guess.
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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02/27/17 08:31 PM
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Hope you do not have to buy a fuel pump from Kawasaki. They want to sell you the entire assembly just to get a pump. You will probably say ouch if it comes to that unless things have changed.
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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02/27/17 08:33 PM
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One thing you might try is to thoroughly degrease, clean, and lubricate the entire throttle body assembly before you take it in. It could just be that if you are lucky.
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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02/27/17 08:38 PM
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Good idea. I will try that for sure before taking it in. I know just a drive on the lot will be costly.
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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02/27/17 09:29 PM
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Wish I could help. Just too far away.
Never been to a camping world. I prefer Dick's to be honest.
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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02/27/17 09:59 PM
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Not trying to state the obvious, but have you changed the fuel filter? I'm not even sure if the newer ones have one or not, but my '06 3010 does.
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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02/28/17 01:48 AM
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The filter is at the bottom of the fuel pump assembly inside the tank on the 4010.The 3010 was cold natured but I will trade cold natured any day over unreliable.
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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02/28/17 02:30 AM
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Not trying to state the obvious, but have you changed the fuel filter? I'm not even sure if the newer ones have one or not, but my '06 3010 does. I'm with ZK. It sounds like water in the fuel if you started having trouble after you ran through flooded area. Bet the fuel filter has processed all the water out of the fuel it can handle and now is sending a mixture of gas and H20 up the fuel line to the carburetor
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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Thanks for the intention, it is the thought that counts.
Yes, that was our first thought and is a good point. I have been looking for the fuel filter on it. Thank you for the direction to its location. I did take the whole fuel system apart the other day (i believe), but I will look again to see if I missed anything. Does the fuel filter look like a typical filter or just a screen?
Thanks!
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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02/28/17 12:42 PM
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Thanks for the intention, it is the thought that counts.
Yes, that was our first thought and is a good point. I have been looking for the fuel filter on it. Thank you for the direction to its location. I did take the whole fuel system apart the other day (i believe), but I will look again to see if I missed anything. Does the fuel filter look like a typical filter or just a screen?
Thanks! If you took the pump assembly out of the tank the filter is the bottom part of it. It's a double screen and imo not as effective as an in line or cartridge type and certainly not as easy to service. This is without doubt the worst fuel delivery system I have ever encountered and there is no way to get around complete removal and disassembly to service it. Also there is no way to drain water off the bottom without removing the pump and syphoning or vacuuming it out. Just a terrible set up and to all 4010 owners, it is not a question of will it fail, but where will it leave you when it does quit. I sure hope Kawasaki did not use this system on the Pro FX. The DX has a pre filter which traps water and then a fuel filter and it's all under the seat and a snap to service. Unfortunately, ANY fuel system that can't be maintained in a simple procedure, is going to give problems due to the fuel which is available and the general lack of understanding of how to deal with this issue. And it is not just ethanol because even the pure petrol goes bad pdq nowadays.
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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02/28/17 05:52 PM
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I want to say I read a while back that the Pro FX has the same...filter in the bottom of the tank on the pump. Is there not a way that you can cut the fuel line and add a small inline filter to it? If that's possible and it was mine, that's what I would do.
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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02/28/17 07:09 PM
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The pump assembly is in the tank sitting in the gasoline therefore external filtration is impossible.
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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02/28/17 10:43 PM
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yeah, I guess I didn't think that one through very well. I'm tired. leave me alone lmao.
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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03/01/17 05:05 PM
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The pump assembly is in the tank sitting in the gasoline therefore external filtration is impossible. I disagree, remove the pump assembly and remove the filter permanently. I would go to a wrecking yard and remove one from a 90's GM fuel lines and all.. and install it. Not very hard and very simple.
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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03/01/17 07:06 PM
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The pump assembly is in the tank sitting in the gasoline therefore external filtration is impossible. I disagree, remove the pump assembly and remove the filter permanently. I would go to a wrecking yard and remove one from a 90's GM fuel lines and all.. and install it. Not very hard and very simple. Hmmmm, have you actually performed one of these very simple procedures you vaguely describe with good results?
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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Lol. Into the dealer it went. Unfortunately!
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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03/01/17 07:17 PM
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The pump assembly is in the tank sitting in the gasoline therefore external filtration is impossible. I disagree, remove the pump assembly and remove the filter permanently. I would go to a wrecking yard and remove one from a 90's GM fuel lines and all.. and install it. Not very hard and very simple. Hmmmm, have you actually performed one of these very simple procedures you vaguely describe with good results? Yes, but not on a Kawasaki.... Remeber dodge thought it was a good idea to put the fuel filter inside the tank...
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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$900 to replace a fuel pump... Umm no. Lol At least i know the problem.
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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If you want help with my idea....... PM me and I'll walk you thru it, I bet you could "gut" the entire factory housing and engineer something that would/could be user friendly.
I assure you this is not the first time some one has had this problem AND they chose NOT to spend $1000. Google is your friend.
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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Sounds good. I may just upgrade. Let ya know.
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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Not trying to state the obvious, but have you changed the fuel filter? I'm not even sure if the newer ones have one or not, but my '06 3010 does. Was wondering about this
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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I'm having the exact same issue with my 2011 TransMule. I'm about to order a new fuel filter from Amazon for $170 that is an aftermarket replacement for the factory Kawasaki unit that sells for $695
Did you get it fixed? Was it the fuel pump? Are you happy with it now?
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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Yeah it does fix. But not permanently. We've bought the 60 dollar Chinese filters and the one you're probably talking about. They seem to work for 6 months to a year. But hey, I can but 6 of those for what they want.
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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Thanks. I just noticed that I said I was going to buy a fuel filter to fix it. The fuel filter is a screen that's built into the bottom of the fuel pump and it's just a screen that doesn't do a lot. I bought the $170 fuel pump on Amazon and installed it the other day. it's a ten minute job, so that was a nice surprise. Probably the easiest fuel pump that I've ever replaced!!! The power is amazing, it's like a brand new vehicle. I think that I got used to it losing power over time and didn't realize that was the problem until I took off the fuel line, turned on the key and only saw a dribble of fuel come out. Now I feel dumb for not trying that a year ago. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078BJT8P4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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$900 to replace a fuel pump... Umm no. Lol At least i know the problem. you can but a complete new fuel pump tower for 600 online.... 6 screws and it installs...sorry just seeing the amazon pump people are using....looks like a viable alternative.. We just replaced the filters on 2 4010s and they were filled with chit!!! amazing how bugs get in your tank..both are running like new now.....I will be replacing the filter ever 100 hrs after this...
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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Thanks. I just noticed that I said I was going to buy a fuel filter to fix it. The fuel filter is a screen that's built into the bottom of the fuel pump and it's just a screen that doesn't do a lot. I bought the $170 fuel pump on Amazon and installed it the other day. it's a ten minute job, so that was a nice surprise. Probably the easiest fuel pump that I've ever replaced!!! The power is amazing, it's like a brand new vehicle. I think that I got used to it losing power over time and didn't realize that was the problem until I took off the fuel line, turned on the key and only saw a dribble of fuel come out. Now I feel dumb for not trying that a year ago. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078BJT8P4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1Is this a "plug in play"..? There is a plug that is on the tower as well not the top one...
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Re: 2011 Mule 4010 Trans Loss of Power Issue
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Just a fyi.... anyone having clutch issues... I took both of mine off and took to Irving Kawasaki...He "rebuilt" both, replacing worn parts as needed and keeping the parts still good... 175 out the door.... was quoted 600 to take it in and have rebuilt and 1200 to completely replace the 2 clutches...Also if you choose to do this you HAVE to have a clutch puller!!!! Dont let you tube guys tell you otherwise.. There is no way you are pulling the main clutch off with out one....they are 40 dollars on amazon...My 4010 trans shredded one belt at 400 hrs so figured time to take em in....Runs like a champ now....Before the belty shredded I was having loss of power and trouble getting the mule in to gear... Now it goes in to gear like butter....
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