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 Bald Eagle killed, USFW declines charges
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02/23/17 03:15 AM
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WTF? 17 years old is plenty old enough to know better than to shoot an bald eagle. http://kxan.com/2017/02/22/houston-area-17-year-old-charged-after-killing-bald-eagle/HOUSTON, Texas (KPRC) – A 17-year-old has been charged with hunting without the landowner’s consent after authorities said he shot a bald eagle to death Tuesday near Houston, Texas.
A witness told police that he saw three males standing near the base of a tree where an American bald eagle had nested for a few years. One of the men was armed with a rifle, police said.
Before deputies arrived, the witness said Orlando David Delgado and two friends returned to the area and one of them pulled a feather from the eagle’s body.
Because of Delgado’s age, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service declined to prosecute, but game warden H.R. Volschenk of Texas Parks and Wildlife said Delgado would be charged with hunting without a landowner’s consent, a class A misdemeanor.
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02/23/17 03:26 AM
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Re: Bald Eagle killed, USFW declines charges
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02/23/17 03:48 AM
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Someone has some influence.
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Re: Bald Eagle killed, USFW declines charges
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02/23/17 04:43 AM
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Way to easy on him. Something stinks here.
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Re: Bald Eagle killed, USFW declines charges
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02/23/17 04:44 AM
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If someone kills a Bald Eagle, (or other protected species), they should be punished to the full extent of the law.....but, according to the article we know only 1 fact: Delgado was with 2 other males when one of the three pulled a feather from the eagle, period.
And you rip the Liberals for jumping to conclusions! P_102
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Re: Bald Eagle killed, USFW declines charges
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02/23/17 05:44 AM
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Oops.....read the posted article 3 times before making my comments, only just now read the'full' article....my bad. P_102
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Re: Bald Eagle killed, USFW declines charges
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02/23/17 10:20 AM
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TPWD got this one wrong. That kid is old enough to understand the crime. He shouls have been charged.
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Re: Bald Eagle killed, USFW declines charges
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02/23/17 12:05 PM
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I would guess they are not nearly as rabid about throwing the book at them as they were years ago before the population rebounded.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Bald Eagle killed, USFW declines charges
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02/23/17 12:06 PM
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TPWD got this one wrong. That kid is old enough to understand the crime. He shouls have been charged. Yep
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Re: Bald Eagle killed, USFW declines charges
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02/23/17 01:35 PM
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Do you think no charges would have been filed if he had poached a buck? We've got a lot more deer in the area than bald eagles.
No, this one isn't passing the smell test.
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Re: Bald Eagle killed, USFW declines charges
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02/23/17 02:01 PM
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He's probably a Illegal that's why..............
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Re: Bald Eagle killed, USFW declines charges
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02/23/17 02:02 PM
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Do you think no charges would have been filed if he had poached a buck? We've got a lot more deer in the area than bald eagles.
No, this one isn't passing the smell test. Agree....
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Re: Bald Eagle killed, USFW declines charges
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02/23/17 02:27 PM
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Do you think no charges would have been filed if he had poached a buck? We've got a lot more deer in the area than bald eagles.
No, this one isn't passing the smell test. Agree.... I was (by definition) speaking of charges by USFW. He was charged with a Class A misdemeanor by the state game warden. Which is the maximum they could charge him with. So conflating the two and comparing it to a buck killed (state jurisdiction/state law) is misplaced.
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Re: Bald Eagle killed, USFW declines charges
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02/23/17 02:27 PM
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illegal, state is dodging big protest
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Re: Bald Eagle killed, USFW declines charges
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02/23/17 02:32 PM
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Someone has some influence. TPWD got this one wrong. That kid is old enough to understand the crime. He shouls have been charged. I remember dove hunting outside Cotulla and the game wardens showed up. This one 14 year old boy had 5 over the limit, game warden wrote him up for it and the judge fined him $100.00 a bird = $500.00  So yes this Bald Eagle crime and lack thereof appropriate punishment is way wrong 
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Re: Bald Eagle killed, USFW declines charges
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02/23/17 03:15 PM
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The Bald and Gold Eagle Protection Act and other laws protecting them are (let me capitalize for emphasis) - FEDERAL laws enforced by USFWS. NOT TPWD.
Get off TPWD's back. Get on USFWS' back if you want, but I doubt the kid had any "pull" there. But if you think so, whatever. But please get the facts straight.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Bald Eagle killed, USFW declines charges
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02/23/17 03:37 PM
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 ...this ought to be fun to watch...tooo many hands in the popcorn to know who's pulling or NOT pulling the strings here ...yet. Nog's right, as usual whe he wears his Legal Hat...TPW ain't in THIS game and HAS done appearantly ALL they have access to do, God Bless 'em. JMHO & YMMV Ron
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Re: Bald Eagle killed, USFW declines charges
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02/23/17 06:32 PM
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Do you think no charges would have been filed if he had poached a buck? We've got a lot more deer in the area than bald eagles.
No, this one isn't passing the smell test. Agree.... I was (by definition) speaking of charges by USFW. He was charged with a Class A misdemeanor by the state game warden. Which is the maximum they could charge him with. So conflating the two and comparing it to a buck killed (state jurisdiction/state law) is misplaced. I thought TGW's were deputized as FGW's so would they not be able to file charges as with any other endangered/threatened species...or the federal duck stamp?
I believe in science and I’m an insufferable [censored] Actually, BBC is pretty damn good "You Cannot Simultaneously Be Politically Correct And Intellectually Honest!"
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Re: Bald Eagle killed, USFW declines charges
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02/23/17 06:55 PM
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If the young men weren't charged with killing the bird, perhaps they didn't kill it.
Texas GW's possess federal commissions and can enforce federal law. If they didn't pursue charges, there has to be a reason why.
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02/23/17 07:38 PM
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When USFWS is involved, they will follow their lead on federal charges.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Bald Eagle killed, USFW declines charges
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02/23/17 07:45 PM
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If the young men weren't charged with killing the bird, perhaps they didn't kill it.
Texas GW's possess federal commissions and can enforce federal law. If they didn't pursue charges, there has to be a reason why. Should be pretty obvious if they did shoot it, although taking feathers from a bald eagle in itself is illegal so I'm not sure why they weren't charged there either.
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Re: Bald Eagle killed, USFW declines charges
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02/23/17 08:01 PM
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ON the news they said they admitted killing it with a Gammo. Lady was out walking and saw the bird, a little while later she walks by and the three guys are standing over it. On the news they said it didn't die so they ha to shoot is a few times.
From the looks of them, ICE should be involved.
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02/23/17 08:45 PM
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Very similar story but with much different response... Link
"Some people will never like you because your spirit irritates their demons."
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Re: Bald Eagle killed, USFW declines charges
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02/23/17 09:40 PM
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TX GW have NO problem enforcing migratory bird act. so why not enforce this. owning a feather from a bird of prey is ilegal, unless you are native american
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Re: Bald Eagle killed, USFW declines charges
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02/23/17 10:45 PM
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Lmao at the "shot it to death"
If you did something like that 20 years ago they would have thrown you under the jail.
If it was a whooping crane would it have been different ?
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