texashuntingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
Josh-04512, dblmikeusa1, Hog-Pro, 4Notch, Niknoc76
72042 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
dogcatcher 110,795
bill oxner 91,416
SnakeWrangler 65,518
stxranchman 60,296
Gravytrain 46,950
RKHarm24 44,585
rifleman 44,461
Stub 43,855
Forum Statistics
Forums46
Topics537,811
Posts9,729,409
Members87,042
Most Online25,604
Feb 12th, 2024
Print Thread
Can someone idiot proof mil/moa scopes for me #6681512 02/20/17 07:49 PM
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 7,250
J
jhenderson Online Content OP
THF Trophy Hunter
OP Online Content
THF Trophy Hunter
J
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 7,250
Did some shooting this weekend dialing in two scopes. One was mil other was moa. First time I've used either so it was a learning curve to say the least. Think I have the mil figured out better than the moa but could use some outside perspective to make sure what I did was right.

Re: Can someone idiot proof mil/moa scopes for me [Re: jhenderson] #6681586 02/20/17 09:02 PM
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 60,428
BOBO the Clown Online Content
kind of a big deal
Online Content
kind of a big deal
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 60,428
Open up a ballistic calculator app. Have Inch, MOA and Mill checked.

Reference your turret click measurements. Easiest way for me.


Donate to TX Youth hunting program.... better to donate then to waste it in taxes

https://secure.qgiv.com/for/gtgoh/mobile
Re: Can someone idiot proof mil/moa scopes for me [Re: jhenderson] #6681588 02/20/17 09:04 PM
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 28,032
N
Navasot Offline
Hollywood
Offline
Hollywood
N
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 28,032
First shot is always test shot... then adjust ninja

Re: Can someone idiot proof mil/moa scopes for me [Re: jhenderson] #6681686 02/20/17 10:35 PM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 41,164
J.G. Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 41,164
What's the problem?


[Linked Image]
800 Yard Steel Range
Precision Rifle Instruction
Memberships and Classes Available
Re: Can someone idiot proof mil/moa scopes for me [Re: jhenderson] #6681708 02/20/17 10:49 PM
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 352
C
cblackall Offline
Bird Dog
Offline
Bird Dog
C
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 352
I'm not clear on the question, but Mil and MOA are both angular units of measurement. Since you have two scopes, one with each adjustment value, you need to learn both as separate entities, and not try to carry over adjustment values between the two. The adjustments are exponential at closer and further ranges. I'll use 100 yds as a baseline. It breaks down like this...

1 mil = 3.6" @ 100 yds 1/10 mil (standard adjustment value) = 0.36" @ 100
7.2" @ 200 yds 0.72" @ 200
10.8"@300 1.08" @ 300
36" @ 1000yds 3.6" @ 1000

1 MOA = 1.047" @ 100 1/4 MOA (standard adjustment) = 0.262" @ 100
2.094" @ 200 0.524" @ 200
3.141" @ 300 0.786" @ 300

It looks more complicated than it is, but hopefully it gives you a rough idea. Most people using MOA scopes will just round numbers. 1 MOA = 1" @ 100 yds, 1/4 MOA (one click) = 1/4" @ 100 yds, etc. Double it @ 200, triple it @ 300, divide by 2 @ 50 yds. Clear as mud?

Re: Can someone idiot proof mil/moa scopes for me [Re: jhenderson] #6681712 02/20/17 10:51 PM
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 352
C
cblackall Offline
Bird Dog
Offline
Bird Dog
C
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 352
And "QUIT THINKING IN INCHES!" Save FiremanJG some typing...

Re: Can someone idiot proof mil/moa scopes for me [Re: jhenderson] #6681728 02/20/17 10:57 PM
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 7,250
J
jhenderson Online Content OP
THF Trophy Hunter
OP Online Content
THF Trophy Hunter
J
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 7,250
Well between the 3 of us I think I was the only one with an idea. Still confusing but I think the mil is the way I'd rather go. Seems the moa wasn't as easy to dial in so may just need to back up and get another scope for it. Huge learning curve still. Now assuming I get it dialed in at say 100 yards and I figure drop o should be able to adjust on the fly and be dead on at whatever distance?

Re: Can someone idiot proof mil/moa scopes for me [Re: jhenderson] #6681752 02/20/17 11:15 PM
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 352
C
cblackall Offline
Bird Dog
Offline
Bird Dog
C
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 352
Yes, assuming your scope tracks true. Meaning that it moves the correct distance you tell it to every time. That will take care of elevation, wind is on you.

Re: Can someone idiot proof mil/moa scopes for me [Re: jhenderson] #6681757 02/20/17 11:17 PM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 18,942
C
ChadTRG42 Offline
THF Celebrity
Offline
THF Celebrity
C
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 18,942
Originally Posted By: jhenderson
assuming I get it dialed in at say 100 yards and I figure drop o should be able to adjust on the fly and be dead on at whatever distance?


Yes, for both. Once you figure out how to use both, it's not hard at all. Just read up on mils and moa, and how to dial and create trajectory charts for both. There's plenty of info on the internet to understand either. And yes, mils is easier to grasp in the beginning. MOA confuses shooters because they want to think in inches while trying to understand moa at the same time, and it doesn't work like that.


[Linked Image]
Custom and Precision Ammunition!!
https://DallasReloads.com/
Type 01 and Type 06 FFL
Re: Can someone idiot proof mil/moa scopes for me [Re: jhenderson] #6681799 02/21/17 12:04 AM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 41,164
J.G. Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 41,164
Originally Posted By: jhenderson
Well between the 3 of us I think I was the only one with an idea. Still confusing but I think the mil is the way I'd rather go. Seems the moa wasn't as easy to dial in so may just need to back up and get another scope for it. Huge learning curve still. Now assuming I get it dialed in at say 100 yards and I figure drop o should be able to adjust on the fly and be dead on at whatever distance?


Could just come out with me for a day, and you will have zero question on how the scope works.


[Linked Image]
800 Yard Steel Range
Precision Rifle Instruction
Memberships and Classes Available
Re: Can someone idiot proof mil/moa scopes for me [Re: J.G.] #6681842 02/21/17 12:47 AM
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 7,250
J
jhenderson Online Content OP
THF Trophy Hunter
OP Online Content
THF Trophy Hunter
J
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 7,250
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: jhenderson
Well between the 3 of us I think I was the only one with an idea. Still confusing but I think the mil is the way I'd rather go. Seems the moa wasn't as easy to dial in so may just need to back up and get another scope for it. Huge learning curve still. Now assuming I get it dialed in at say 100 yards and I figure drop o should be able to adjust on the fly and be dead on at whatever distance?


Could just come out with me for a day, and you will have zero question on how the scope works.


May have to eventually. Would be good for more the. One reason.

Re: Can someone idiot proof mil/moa scopes for me [Re: jhenderson] #6681904 02/21/17 01:50 AM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 41,164
J.G. Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 41,164
Zero people have said it was a waste of time or money.

Just sayin. smile


[Linked Image]
800 Yard Steel Range
Precision Rifle Instruction
Memberships and Classes Available
Re: Can someone idiot proof mil/moa scopes for me [Re: jhenderson] #6681913 02/21/17 01:53 AM
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 4,140
D
Dalee7892 Offline
Extreme Tracker
Offline
Extreme Tracker
D
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 4,140
FJG, you do weekends?

Re: Can someone idiot proof mil/moa scopes for me [Re: Dalee7892] #6681919 02/21/17 01:57 AM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 41,164
J.G. Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 41,164
Monday through Saturday.


[Linked Image]
800 Yard Steel Range
Precision Rifle Instruction
Memberships and Classes Available
Re: Can someone idiot proof mil/moa scopes for me [Re: cblackall] #6682248 02/21/17 02:00 PM
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 3,594
S
Skylar Mac Offline
Extreme Tracker
Offline
Extreme Tracker
S
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 3,594
Originally Posted By: cblackall
And "QUIT THINKING IN INCHES!" Save FiremanJG some typing...


Preach!

Re: Can someone idiot proof mil/moa scopes for me [Re: J.G.] #6682921 02/21/17 11:50 PM
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 3,091
A
Always ready 2 hunt Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
A
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 3,091
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: jhenderson
Well between the 3 of us I think I was the only one with an idea. Still confusing but I think the mil is the way I'd rather go. Seems the moa wasn't as easy to dial in so may just need to back up and get another scope for it. Huge learning curve still. Now assuming I get it dialed in at say 100 yards and I figure drop o should be able to adjust on the fly and be dead on at whatever distance?


Could just come out with me for a day, and you will have zero question on how the scope works.


^^^ Yep. Well worth it for many reasons.

Re: Can someone idiot proof mil/moa scopes for me [Re: jhenderson] #6687925 02/26/17 11:55 PM
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 8
W
wardDanger Offline
Green Horn
Offline
Green Horn
W
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 8
its so easy once you get it, its damn near impossible (for me at least) to have it explained without sock puppets and pretty shapes

Re: Can someone idiot proof mil/moa scopes for me [Re: jhenderson] #6688276 02/27/17 04:57 AM
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 8,069
C
Cool Mo D Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
C
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 8,069
confused2

Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

© 2004-2024 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3