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Unusual game warden request
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02/08/17 04:00 PM
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DoubleB20
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Our local game warden in Stephens County asked our lease boss for names, addresses and phone numbers of all lease members for "his information". I don't have anything to hide, but I can't see much benefit to provide that info to him. What would you do?
Edit: I was informed the game warden asked the land owner not the lease manager.
Last edited by DoubleB20; 02/08/17 08:06 PM.
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Re: Unusual game warden request
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02/08/17 04:04 PM
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Interesting. I'd be curious about it too, and share your caution, but I'm sure someone will provide some food for thought on this topic. Never heard of it before.
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Re: Unusual game warden request
[Re: DoubleB20]
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02/08/17 04:07 PM
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I would give it to him and tell him he is always welcome on my property. Tell him to come by for a cup of coffee any time he's in the area. Our warden comes by and visits every now and then. He's a nice young man.
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Re: Unusual game warden request
[Re: DoubleB20]
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02/08/17 04:07 PM
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Unless there is an active investigation of some sort I don't believe I would give him that information.
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Re: Unusual game warden request
[Re: DoubleB20]
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02/08/17 04:07 PM
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Perhaps this would help him determine if an individual belonged on the property if contacted by the GW.
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Re: Unusual game warden request
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02/08/17 04:09 PM
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Nothing wrong with him asking... nothing wrong with the boss saying that's not his info to share imo.... but most will.. so why not ask
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Re: Unusual game warden request
[Re: DoubleB20]
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02/08/17 04:10 PM
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hell I have the game warden's cell phone number and text him from time to time when I'm out at the lease depending on what I'm doing. If I'm going to do any night hunting I definitely let him know.
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Re: Unusual game warden request
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02/08/17 04:10 PM
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I have been checked many times by GW's, Hunting, Fishing and just Boating, I always welcome them, tell them that I appreciate them (and I do), I have never met a rude one, but there is no reason for GW to need that info. I would tell him no.
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Re: Unusual game warden request
[Re: DoubleB20]
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02/08/17 04:11 PM
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Iv always liked knowing the warden around the county... why wouldn't you if you had a lease you lived well away from..
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Re: Unusual game warden request
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02/08/17 04:15 PM
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He is fishing, a completely legal form of inquiry, but fishing none-the-less. He isn't wanting to meet all the people. He just wants the information. He will take all the names provided and then search to see that all are licensed and with no wants or warrants. If there is a problem, he now has two places to try to find the person, at the lease and at their homes.
Unless he is involved in an actual investigation regarding activities on the property, he really has no need to know the information about the lease holders. I would not do it.
With that said, he may then hassle the lease holders via license inspections if he doesn't get the information otherwise. That is his prerogative.
Last edited by Double Naught Spy; 02/08/17 04:16 PM.
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Re: Unusual game warden request
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02/08/17 04:15 PM
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Like birddogman, I have no problems with the gamewarden, no problems and no violations etc. I also wouldn't give him the info unless there was a reason.
It did tick me off last season that the game warden drove right up to our camp in his truck, through our locked gate... turns out he has a key to the power company lock. I think that should be against the law.
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Re: Unusual game warden request
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02/08/17 04:15 PM
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Kind of weird to me. We like our game warden a lot, he comes by pretty often during deer season. The most he has asked for is the makes, models and LP #'s to our trucks so he knows who is supposed to be here and who isn't. That's never bothered me before.
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Re: Unusual game warden request
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02/08/17 04:19 PM
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Iv always liked knowing the warden around the county... why wouldn't you if you had a lease you lived well away from.. This, I am 3.5 hours from my lease, in my case i would not mind him checking from time to time to verify that there is no poaching.
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Re: Unusual game warden request
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02/08/17 04:19 PM
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Kind of weird to me. We like our game warden a lot, he comes by pretty often during deer season. The most he has asked for is the makes, models and LP #'s to our trucks so he knows who is supposed to be here and who isn't. That's never bothered me before. Not at all... but he pretty much asked the same thing as this warden but in a better thought out manner
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Re: Unusual game warden request
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02/08/17 04:21 PM
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Re: Unusual game warden request
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02/08/17 04:21 PM
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Mixed feelings... Enough issues with privacy as it is.
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Re: Unusual game warden request
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02/08/17 04:22 PM
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Kind of weird to me. We like our game warden a lot, he comes by pretty often during deer season. The most he has asked for is the makes, models and LP #'s to our trucks so he knows who is supposed to be here and who isn't. That's never bothered me before. See, he doesn't need the LP#s of people's vehicles and he doesn't need to know who is supposed to be on the lease or not. That is more fishing. What is he going to do, stop everyone he sees on the lease that don't have the right LP#s as potential trespassers? Nope. He isn't there to stop trespassers without there first being a complaint from the landowner/lease manager that a trespasser is on property at a given time. Never mind the fact that he can run license plates at will and find out names.
Last edited by Double Naught Spy; 02/08/17 04:23 PM.
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Re: Unusual game warden request
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02/08/17 04:26 PM
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Kinda depends on if you're in an area where you have issues with trespassing, theft, poaching, etc.
I gladly gave the name of those with permission to be on my place to our GW because I was hoping he'd go by more. My place is close to town and we (early on) had issues with stuff disappearing. Hasn't happened in a few years now though.
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Re: Unusual game warden request
[Re: Double Naught Spy]
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02/08/17 04:28 PM
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Kind of weird to me. We like our game warden a lot, he comes by pretty often during deer season. The most he has asked for is the makes, models and LP #'s to our trucks so he knows who is supposed to be here and who isn't. That's never bothered me before. See, he doesn't need the LP#s of people's vehicles and he doesn't need to know who is supposed to be on the lease or not. That is more fishing. What is he going to do, stop everyone he sees on the lease that don't have the right LP#s as potential trespassers? Nope. He isn't there to stop trespassers without there first being a complaint from the landowner/lease manager that a trespasser is on property at a given time. Never mind the fact that he can run license plates at will and find out names. I wouldn't get that far into it... I would hope hes doing both at least... they do watch out for properties when they know who is suppose to be there and not... no need for a call when he can just call LO or lease holder
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Re: Unusual game warden request
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02/08/17 04:44 PM
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I would not provide that information but would invite the GW out for dinner to come out and formally meet everyone on the lease. If he would like that information he could ask for it then in person if he so desires. I also wouldn't be happy if someone else volunteered my private information to anyone else without my consent first.
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Re: Unusual game warden request
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02/08/17 04:45 PM
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Yeah he's fishing and without due cause, coming from an LEO, if I was the land owner I would tell him NO. If he wants the names and other info, he can get a subpoena or come out and meet them while they are there. TCIC/NCIC doesn't take kindly to checking names & license plates without good cause.
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Re: Unusual game warden request
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02/08/17 04:46 PM
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I personally know Clifton, the game warden in Stephens county. I have deer and duck hunted with him on multiple occasions and he has been coming around on our place for several years now. He's a straight forward guy, with a level head on his shoulders. If he is needing some info, I would think it would be for good reason.
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Re: Unusual game warden request
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02/08/17 04:48 PM
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We give all of our hunters a card that we print up and change every year to signify that they are hunting on our place. Game warden comes to check and you pull out your card and you have verification that you belong there. We supposedly have a good relationship with our warden and have always treated him with the utmost respect. We have had a few small violations, but nothing serious, but this year he came into camp via the backside and we were all sitting around eating as it was New Year's eve. He started going through ice chests and looking in the back of people's trucks before announcing himself. I thought this was pretty much BS and I know he can do what he wants, but from our past record you would think we deserved a little respect also.
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Re: Unusual game warden request
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02/08/17 04:50 PM
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First, it's not your lease boss's place to be handing out personal info to anybody. Crazy that some think that's ok.
IF the hunting rules were reasonable and all on one page (like they could be) then I'd be more apt to work with GW's. But, since a GW can issue a citation to any sportsman in the field, I prefer to let them do all their own leg work.
And no way would one drive onto my places with a "power company" key. I'd demand that the power co take the key and let the GW know that he is welcome to walk in from the locked gate any time he pleases.
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Re: Unusual game warden request
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And no way would one drive onto my places with a "power company" key. I'd demand that the power co take the key and let the GW know that he is welcome to walk in from the locked gate any time he pleases. We have nothing to hide, but it really hung in my craw. I didn't say anything because I didn't want to cause trouble or make an enemy of him, but it still eats at me.
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