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#6654004 - 01/30/17 07:12 AM Compound or crossbow?
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Like the added range of the crossbow but st the same time kinda feel it's almost like cheating. Starting to have a little bit of a should problem so that also has me leaning towards the crossbow too. What's some good priced entry level stuff out there these days? Been probably4-5 years since I've had a bow now and it's time to get back into something.

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#6654110 - 01/30/17 08:47 AM Re: Compound or crossbow? [Re: jhenderson]
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Don't use the term "cheating" you will get a flurry of responses from cross bow to spear chunking as far as what is cheating or sportsman. I prefer a compound bow, personally. Have no desire to go to crossbow unless health reasons may have me rethink it. Just be prepared as to what direction this thread may take.
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#6654118 - 01/30/17 08:53 AM Re: Compound or crossbow? [Re: jhenderson]
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When I think bow hunting I don't think crossbow. I'm sure it's going south either way. I think my shoulder will still let me shoot a compound another couple years.

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#6654230 - 01/30/17 10:12 AM Re: Compound or crossbow? [Re: jhenderson]
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Unless you have the time to practice a lot, I'd go crossbow. Compounds make me think of golf; to be really proficient you have to practice a ton. I do practice with my crossbow, but not nearly as much as I did when I was shooting compound. Our deer are very wary when they get inside of 30 yds. Raising a crossbow is much less likely to get you busted than raising and drawing a compound. And if you are shooting a bow from 20'+ up or from a blacked out pop-up, I don't even want to hear your criticize my crossbow. It's all still hunting and legal.
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#6654246 - 01/30/17 10:28 AM Re: Compound or crossbow? [Re: jhenderson]
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What are some good budget sub $500 set ups?

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#6654314 - 01/30/17 11:19 AM Re: Compound or crossbow? [Re: jhenderson]
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Jhenderson, there's a bunch. Go to your local shop, tell them your budget and hold/shoot a few. Pick the one that's most comfortable
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#6654428 - 01/30/17 12:45 PM Re: Compound or crossbow? [Re: jhenderson]
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Crossbows, Parker, Centerpoint, PSE Fang, Carbon express are what I would be looking at for under 500 in a crossbow.

Vertical bows there are a lot of them Beat, Diamond, PSE. Mission all make several compounds in that price range. Some of the ones on sale now are great deals.
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#6654546 - 01/30/17 01:57 PM Re: Compound or crossbow? [Re: jhenderson]
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It's not cheating. But it's not as challenging as a compound which isn't as challenging as a traditional bow. Each person has the opportunity to chose. If you are good at it and enjoy it than who gives a rip what others think

I do have an issue with your idea of it having an extended range.
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#6654560 - 01/30/17 02:05 PM Re: Compound or crossbow? [Re: jhenderson]
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Here's a decent video on some sub $500 crossbows. As far as your question about compound or crossbow, I hunt with either/both depending on the setup. In my experience, you have a little more of an advantage with a crossbow, but not a lot. A modern compound will shoot arrows almost as fast and about the same kinetic energy as a crossbow. Even though the crossbow will have a higher draw weight, a compound has a longer draw length putting more energy into the arrow.

On either one, you are better limiting your shots to 40 yards or so. Even if you can hit a target at longer distances, the critter is likely to jump the string if you stretch your shot much further. Folks who say hunting with a crossbow is like hunting with a rifle, they probably have never hunted with a crossbow. It's certainly not cheating.

I say, go with whatever you like and don't worry about other folks think. cheers

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#6654563 - 01/30/17 02:06 PM Re: Compound or crossbow? [Re: jhenderson]
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By added range I don't mean drastic but compound I wouldn't shoot past 40 yards max crossbow maybe 60 max. Of course there are factors both ways.

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#6654568 - 01/30/17 02:13 PM Re: Compound or crossbow? [Re: jhenderson]
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No way I would shoot at a deer at 60 yards with a crossbow. By the time that the arrow gets there, that deer could move several feet. Not to say it's never been done, but I won't do it.
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#6654585 - 01/30/17 02:26 PM Re: Compound or crossbow? [Re: jhenderson]
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Kinda like a rifle. There's a comfortable range and then There's hog and coyote range. Deer I'd never shoot past 40 just not comfortable beyond that.

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#6654926 - 01/30/17 06:24 PM Re: Compound or crossbow? [Re: jhenderson]
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If you go with a crossbow then check out the HHA Optimizer Speed Dial. You range it in, match the sight tape, use a range finder to get exact distance, turn the wheel to the yardage and you're dead on. there was a problem with the PSE Fang's limbs exploding when they first came out. You would also have to install a washer under one of the string dampeners because it doesn't sit center across the string on one side. I had two of them and they were junk. One had a huge gouge in the rails and the other had limbs that were cracking after shooting it 5 times. I was even using a heavier bolt than what PSE recommended to me on the phone. Firing my Mission MXB-360 crossbow from inside my blind, the deer don't even hear it but I still wouldn't take a shot over 40 yards on an deer with it. I would go 50 yards on a hog if I had a shot and everything was in my favor. But you really don't have to shoot that far if you set your feeder closer. I use the Primo's monopod to hold it steady and I picked up a Vortex camera to picatinny adapter so I can connect it right to the monopod. Crossbows are a lot of fun!!!! I am planning on putting a ladder stand 20 yards away in the tree line to be able to use my LX and recurve this year during archery season.

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#6655307 - 01/30/17 10:24 PM Re: Compound or crossbow? [Re: jhenderson]
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I'm always up for a good debate. I think you pick your poison and get your butt outside, thats most important.

I've been hounded by long bow hunters then they show up during gun season with a Kimber bolt action instead of a flintlock. Folk like that put the joy in huntin for me because they can dish it out but cry like babies when you give it back.

A crossbow has a learning curve (shot placement and judging range and elevation effects) if you are a rifle hunter and its accuracy can get you into trouble. A sixty yard shot is very easy accuracy wise but things can start going wrong after 30 yards.

I like a recurve crossbow between 300-330fps, Nikon Crossbolt scope, and keep shots inside 35 yards cross lung.
If you like to shoot bones, I urge you to use this:

https://vparchery.com/product/vpa-3-blade-broadheads-125-grains-non-vented-1-18-width-3-pack-copy/

I urge you to use this too:

https://www.amazon.com/Rust-Oleum-214944-Reflective-10-Ounce-Spray/dp/B000LNVC1M

Do explore the benefits of a recurve crossbow if you like simple and don't be afraid to spend a little money.

Every weapon and hunt can present some challenge. Getting so close is where I challenge myself, dats how I get off. Tried the spear but it just ain't my thing but I do like hunting Hippos with a 410 Leveraction.

Goodluck to ya.


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#6655361 - 01/30/17 11:13 PM Re: Compound or crossbow? [Re: jhenderson]
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Registered: 12/16/12
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^^^^^^ Spear is definitely on my list^^^^^^ Yeah Excaliber makes some fast recurve crossbows. I gave my buddy my old 1980 Barnett Wildcat 150# crossbow. It only goes 235fps but it's good enough for 30 yard shots out the blind window. If you need to get one on a payment plan then get on the Sportsman's Guide buyers club and you can get the crossbow on the first payment and then pay it off over 4 months. I ended up getting the HHA Optimizer crossbow speed dial that way and some other stuff. Look in to getting a Hawke Optics or similar crossbow scope with a lit reticle for it. Then you can get used to leveling the crossbow when taking a shot. A crank cocking device makes a huge difference and so does some arrow lube to help you pull the bolts out of the target. Arrow pullers are good to have too. There is nothing better than getting a close shot. Up north we couldn't shoot more than 20 to 30 yards from a 20' high tree stand or on a trail because the woods are so thick. It was pretty awesome hunting deer with a recurve from the ground. You can also pick up a 100# tree hugger feeder and move it around to see which area is good for you and then set up your stand from there. I absolutely love hunting in Texas! You can bait deer and get them in nice and close making it a lot easier for using a recurve. I would like to try a spear on a hog sometime. I am going after quail this winter with my recurve and some snaro points at Top Flight which should be fun. My wife bought me some aerial targets and I guess she trusts me enough to throw them for me to practice lmao. That's trust right there lol.

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