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22 nosler ar 15 #6636710 01/17/17 07:22 PM
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Looks pretty slick

https://www.22nosler.com


Billing it as 3k fps with 77 grain bullet

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Color me impressed.

Performance wise, it is getting an AR-15 platform to narrowing the gap to .22-250. This really is a great improvement over the .223.

Only down side is going to be brass price. .223 brass is dirt cheap, this brass will be significantly more expensive.

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I am going to be interested to see bullet length issues.


I can't find the length of the new eld match 72 or 77 grain. But that would be something.


Was thinking about making a 6.5 Grendel but may go this route

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Still think the Grendel is a higher performing round. But, if ya like velocity, this one is hard to beat.


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Are they saying you can only get a 55 grain ballistic tip to appx. 2600 fps in a 223? I have Nosler loading manual that says that's not even starting loads for a 223. Am I missing something or are they just trying to make it look better than it is?



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Well, you know how Nosler tends to bend the truth...


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Originally Posted By: redchevy
Are they saying you can only get a 55 grain ballistic tip to appx. 2600 fps in a 223? I have Nosler loading manual that says that's not even starting loads for a 223. Am I missing something or are they just trying to make it look better than it is?




Yeah I had to look that up on Hodgdon. I was thinking my 55 Gamekings were about 3100 and I'm on the low end. Looks like some number fudging for sure. I still want one though.

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HAHA

Looking on nosler's online data it lists a max load of benchmark with a 55 grain at 3540 fps and the fastest load with the 22 nosler is 3518 roflmao

I'm betting its going to be a flop.


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I'm glad you took the time to dig.

I retract my original statement. grin


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here is what i dont understand....

First if i get a hod rod i am going to run it. So i am going to look at the 77 grain data

according to hodgon data, the 223 the 77 grain bullet maxes at 2811 fps out of a 24in barrel
according to noslers data, the 22 nosler maxes out at 2981 fps out of a 24in barrel
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Nosler® Match Grade™ Ammunition— 77gr. Custom Competition
- 3,100 fps (24” SAAMI test bbl) | 2,950 fps (18” gas-op semi auto)


so either there load data is mild or they are running their ammo hard
also that means its a 150fps drop for 6in of barrel

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Originally Posted By: redchevy
Are they saying you can only get a 55 grain ballistic tip to appx. 2600 fps in a 223? I have Nosler loading manual that says that's not even starting loads for a 223. Am I missing something or are they just trying to make it look better than it is?




if i was a betting man i would say it is selectively interpretation of baseline. I think they pulled 223 low pressure data not 5.56/223 data

their posted 223 data is mild to say the least

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This looks to be the same case capacity as the 22/6.8SPC which has been around for several years in a couple of different designs.
Mine has the same 30 degree shoulder as the 22Nosler so I would expect the two to be identical ballisticly.
You can run a 75 gr AMax about 3050-3080fps with a 22inch barrel which is about 200fps or more faster than a 223.
I ran 50gr at 3500+ from the same 22 inch barrel

Just my opinion after owning both a 1/12 twist and a 1/8 get the fast twist run heavier high BC bullets and you have something you can't do as well as a 223 unless you single load and even then you will give up some performance


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