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Re: Hunting Trip gone bad.
[Re: fouzman]
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01/13/17 03:13 PM
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But not near as exciting as cross border violence.
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Re: Hunting Trip gone bad.
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01/13/17 04:04 PM
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I lmao at the comments about building a wall
There will never be a wall built along the Texas portion of the rio grande
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Re: Hunting Trip gone bad.
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01/13/17 04:27 PM
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Friendly fire!
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Re: Hunting Trip gone bad.
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01/13/17 04:52 PM
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So, the guide Walker Daugherty thought someone was stealing the RV, went and tried to open it, was shot at from the inside by Roberts, went and got a gun and shot Roberts three times, and then was himself shot by the other guide?
Okay, but that leaves unanswered the question why Daugherty wasn't aware that Roberts and his wife were spending the night in their own RV.
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Re: Hunting Trip gone bad.
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01/13/17 05:19 PM
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And why would he go in the RV without a gun to begin with?
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Re: Hunting Trip gone bad.
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01/13/17 05:20 PM
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Re: Hunting Trip gone bad.
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01/13/17 05:37 PM
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So, the guide Walker Daugherty thought someone was stealing the RV, went and tried to open it, was shot at from the inside by Roberts, went and got a gun and shot Roberts three times, and then was himself shot by the other guide?
Okay, but that leaves unanswered the question why Daugherty wasn't aware that Roberts and his wife were spending the night in their own RV. Aside from that: -How did they never identify themselves? -Why did they feel the need to light up the RV to that extent without even knowing who was inside? -After realizing that it was just them shooting at each other why all the BS about it being illegals trying to kidnap them, etc.? Still smells funny to me, the guy is probably going to be in some trouble because of that gofundme account that was set up under false premise. There are also going to be quite a few lawsuits thrown around and some people are probably going to end up facing charges, I'd say. Especially after reading this tidbit which is supposed to be an interview with one of the family members and is now apparently proven to be 100% BS. Exclusive: Gunmen targeted family's RV before shootout by Jasmine Anderson
PRESIDIO COUNTY, Texas (WEAR) — Several men armed with guns tried stealing 59-year-old Edwin Roberts' RV before ambushing the people inside, Roberts' family claims. The Pensacola chiropractor and his wife were having a relaxing dinner after a day of hunting at the Circle Dug Ranch when they heard a noise a the door. "My mom’s dog starts barking. There’s someone trying to get into the RV. My dad gets his weapon, identifies he has a weapon and tells whoever it is to leave. They say in English, 'we got weapons and we want your RV'," his son, Edwin Roberts II, said. Two men with pistols were trying shoot their way inside. Roberts went for the wheel - he honked the horn and alerted the camp - and got shot in the process. He was able to turn the RV on and drive it towards the camp house. Two hunting guides heard the commotion and came outside to see what was going on. They ran back inside to grab their shotguns when they saw multiple people attacking the RV. "Then he came back out, the RV was moving now and he thought they gotten in there and had either took my parents hostage or hurting them, so he tried to shoot the RV tires out with a buck shot which he did to stop the RV," Roberts II explained. Walker Daugherty, 26, was shot in abdomen. "All of a sudden, Walker is down. He gets hit from where the RV was. From a different direction, in the stomach, so he’s’ out cold," Roberts II said. Roberts' wife put a tourniquet on her husband and applied pressure on Daugherty's wound, too. With the suspects gone an immediate call for help was out of the question - they didn't have reception. "It takes several hours to get out there, and from what I understand, the military sent a helicopter. They life-flighted Mr. walker to El Paso and they took my dad to the city of Presidio and put him on a plane and took him to El Paso," Roberts II said. Both men had surgery that night. Roberts had been shot three times, had some broken bones and lots of soft tissue damage. Roberts' family says he has been discharged from the hospital and will fly into Pensacola Tuesday night.
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Re: Hunting Trip gone bad.
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01/13/17 05:41 PM
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That's what paranoia will get you.....
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Hunting Trip gone bad.
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01/13/17 05:57 PM
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Yeah, I am guessing that there is more to it than paranoia, but you could be right.
Gotta wonder about the statements put out by the family and the claims made about raiders. They came up with a lot of details about their attackers and now that is apparently all fabrications.
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Re: Hunting Trip gone bad.
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01/13/17 07:06 PM
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That is absolutely insane. Some people do not need to be hunting guides.
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Re: Hunting Trip gone bad.
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01/13/17 08:07 PM
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I lmao at the comments about building a wall
There will never be a wall built along the Texas portion of the rio grande what makes you think it won't happen?
when the going gets really tough, I sit down and rest
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Re: Hunting Trip gone bad.
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01/14/17 05:24 AM
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I wonder when and how long it took them to get their story together, First they weren't talking, but now they have a story??? Something still smells about the whole mess.
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Re: Hunting Trip gone bad.
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01/15/17 01:59 AM
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I wonder when and how long it took them to get their story together, First they weren't talking, but now they have a story??? Something still smells about the whole mess. agree
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Re: Hunting Trip gone bad.
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01/15/17 03:53 AM
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I lmao at the comments about building a wall
There will never be a wall built along the Texas portion of the rio grande what makes you think it won't happen? What makes you think it will happen and Mexico will pay for it? The border between the U.S. and Mexico is 1,954 miles long. Large chunks of land along that border — especially in Texas — are privately owned. Building the wall would require the federal government to take property from hundreds of American citizens living along the border.
Consider what happened when the U.S. built the existing segments of the national border fence. In 2006, Congress passed the Secure Fence Act. The federal government then built roughly 650 miles of fencing along the Southern border. Roughly 100 miles of this were in Texas, where the government had to take property from more than 400 border residents.
Trump is pretty good at taking small parcels from poor people in NJ but this is a lot of land and he would have to take it from Texans One big High Fence lease huh
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Re: Hunting Trip gone bad.
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01/15/17 02:10 PM
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I lmao at the comments about building a wall
There will never be a wall built along the Texas portion of the rio grande what makes you think it won't happen? What makes you think it will happen and Mexico will pay for it? The border between the U.S. and Mexico is 1,954 miles long. Large chunks of land along that border — especially in Texas — are privately owned. Building the wall would require the federal government to take property from hundreds of American citizens living along the border.
Consider what happened when the U.S. built the existing segments of the national border fence. In 2006, Congress passed the Secure Fence Act. The federal government then built roughly 650 miles of fencing along the Southern border. Roughly 100 miles of this were in Texas, where the government had to take property from more than 400 border residents.
Trump is pretty good at taking small parcels from poor people in NJ but this is a lot of land and he would have to take it from Texans One big High Fence lease huh Don't know if it will happen, but paying for it is the easy part, We send Mx billions of dollars every year cut it short as much as needed. Mx workers send home millions every year buy WU or some other co. put a tax on what they send.
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Re: Hunting Trip gone bad.
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01/16/17 03:28 PM
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I lmao at the comments about building a wall
There will never be a wall built along the Texas portion of the rio grande what makes you think it won't happen? Ever been to Lake Amistad or Falcon lake? How the hell are we going to build a wall down the middle of a river?
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Re: Hunting Trip gone bad.
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01/16/17 04:44 PM
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[quote=txtrophy85]I lmao at the comments about building a wall
There will never be a wall built along the Texas portion of the rio grande what makes you think it won't happen? Ever been to Lake Amistad or Falcon lake? How the hell are we going to build a wall down the middle of a river? yes i have been there several times, you don't build down the middle of the rio grand either. they do make some very good plastic these days.
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Re: Hunting Trip gone bad.
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01/17/17 11:46 PM
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So if they do build the wall will I be considered a high fence mexican?
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Re: Hunting Trip gone bad.
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01/17/17 11:57 PM
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They would have to build it on the Mexican side, the condemnation suits would be horrendous with all those Texas landowners that border the rio grande. Plus, on a lot of the country around big bend, it would be darn near physically impossible.
I'm pro trump but he sold that schtick to people who have never seen the Texas/Mexico border.
Mexico will never build it and Texas landowners will never allow it
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Re: Hunting Trip gone bad.
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01/18/17 12:04 AM
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The Wall was just a pipe dream. Good vote-getter for the sheep? Check. Something that is ever gonna happen? Something that Mexico is going to pay for?
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Hunting Trip gone bad.
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01/18/17 03:20 AM
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Mexico will never build it and Texas landowners will never allow it It would not be a matter if they "allow" it. Eminent domain is a bugger. With that said, I don't think it will ever happen, either.
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Re: Hunting Trip gone bad.
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01/18/17 11:06 AM
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Rudy, I guess that would depend on which side of the fence is "in" and which side is "out"..
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Re: Hunting Trip gone bad.
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I lmao at the comments about building a wall
There will never be a wall built along the Texas portion of the rio grande what makes you think it won't happen? maybe he will build it right smack in the middle of the Rio Grande river
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Re: Hunting Trip gone bad.
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"The Wall" is a great album.
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Re: Hunting Trip gone bad.
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TRUMP'S the PRESIDENT and Hillary aint! That works too!!!!
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