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#6619521 - 01/06/17 12:05 PM Another experiment: opinions?
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Registered: 09/04/09
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Loc: Weatherford, Texas
I realize that the use of scent eliminating products is controversial however,this past season I conducted another experiment with Scent Killer. Nov. 28 and 29 I did the full scent eliminating procedure, as I always due prior to hunting: Scent Killer soap and shampoo the night before, scent free laundry detergent for all hunting clothes, Scent Killer spray before and after dressing. Nov. 28 and 29 had small bucks, does three coyotes and many turkeys from 5 yds. (buck, does and coyote) to about 100 yds. out and none of them busted me. Most of the time I was not hidden in a blind but was extremely slow and quiet. Killed a nice 10 pt.
Nov. 30, regular soap (no shampoo) and did not use Scent Killer at all. Two does, who could not have seen or heard me busted me at from over 100 yds.
Interested to hear your opinions on scent eliminating products?
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#6619529 - 01/06/17 12:10 PM Re: Another experiment: opinions? [Re: Red Cloud]
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Registered: 08/03/11
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Loc: Katy, TX
I've had deer at 10yd with just Scent Killer sprayed. No shampoo, no soap, no laundry detergent. Sprayed well, and all over boots and soles. However, I did spray each layer as I wore it, save the thermal underwear grin. Also sprayed hunt pack/bag, gloves, beanie, and hat.

I don't like Dead Down Wind at all because I had it ruin my hunt, but love the Scent Killer and have used Scent A Way once and it was alright. Dunno about the other brands.

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#6619539 - 01/06/17 12:13 PM Re: Another experiment: opinions? [Re: Red Cloud]
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I just hunt the wind....regular soap...no shampoo (shaved head)....big 'ol chew of tobacco most of the time....
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#6619562 - 01/06/17 12:25 PM Re: Another experiment: opinions? [Re: Red Cloud]
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Registered: 09/22/16
Posts: 139
Loc: NE Texas
I think any step you can take to not add to your natural scent will help. You can never be 100% scent free, but eliminating your regular daily rituals like regular deoderents and shampoos will only help get the percentage down.

I will wash and air dry my camos a week or 2 before season and then box them up with fresh cut cedar. I try to only wear them when I'm in the field and not in my truck or house... I use scent control shampoo and deoderent and it seems to help, but I still get busted from time to time. As the season wears on and I aquire more natural scents from the field like doe pee "from my bottle" and just natural dirt scents, I seem to get busted WAY less. I've even stumbled up on deer in the dark walking to my stand without my flashlight, of course, and had young bucks follow me to the point where I've had to turn on my light to scare them off from being too close!

OR you could just gear up and go roll around in the dirt for a few hours

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#6619610 - 01/06/17 12:57 PM Re: Another experiment: opinions? [Re: Red Cloud]
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I use the Dead Down Wind stuff. Or whatever some hunter leaves behind in one of my blinds or at the lodge. aim

I don't think I have bought only 1 bottle scent eliminator spray in several years(Thank you clients!)It's usually half a bottle or something like that left behind. I checked the lodge house today and I have 4 full bottles of DDW(after I gathered all the partials and combined them), 1 half bottle of Hunter's Specialties, and 2 Wildlife Research.

I usually wear a regular pair of wranglers that I will wash in scent-free soap along with my shirts and spray down before going on the Gator and at the blind if I'm sitting with them.
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#6619612 - 01/06/17 12:58 PM Re: Another experiment: opinions? [Re: Red Cloud]
Jgraider Offline
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Registered: 06/13/15
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Loc: West Texas
Scent killing products are a farce. They do nothing to eliminate the odor coming from your mouth, and even eyes. Huge scam. As others have said, hunt the wind.

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#6619615 - 01/06/17 12:59 PM Re: Another experiment: opinions? [Re: Red Cloud]
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Loc: Denton County
I use those wafers that smell like dirt in the clothing bag, Dead Down Wind or Scent Killer final spray down. Don't wear hunting clothes around cooking or camp fires. Cig smoking okay.

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#6619754 - 01/06/17 02:19 PM Re: Another experiment: opinions? [Re: Red Cloud]
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Most of the deer in our area are so exposed to human scents, that unless they associate the scent with danger, they basically ignore it.
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#6619813 - 01/06/17 02:52 PM Re: Another experiment: opinions? [Re: dogcatcher]
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Originally Posted By: dogcatcher
Most of the deer in our area are so exposed to human scents, that unless they associate the scent with danger, they basically ignore it.


I've heard of guys who leave old clothes in their stands during the off season so deer will learn to ignore the scent. It makes complete sense when you consider that deer are only alerted to smells that are out of place.
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#6619838 - 01/06/17 03:15 PM Re: Another experiment: opinions? [Re: Jgraider]
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Originally Posted By: Jgraider
Scent killing products are a farce. They do nothing to eliminate the odor coming from your mouth, and even eyes. Huge scam. As others have said, hunt the wind.


I have almost totally bought into this thought after this year and my personal experiences. I have walked a trail and not 5-10 mins later had deer travel the same trail in my direction. When the urge arises I have gotten out of the blind, found the nearest tree or bush closest to the stand, done my business whether #1 or #2, and have had deer walk right over it 20 to 40 mins later. About all I will do is shampoo/wash with scent free soap. After that I am playing the wind. Sure, I try and keep my clothes in a bag that won't smell like fast food on the way to the lease but that's just common sense.

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#6619869 - 01/06/17 03:42 PM Re: Another experiment: opinions? [Re: Red Cloud]
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Hunt the wind and I try not wear my hunting clothes around camp. Dress and undress asap. I often rub some nature on my boots/clothes of area as I'm waling in (cedar branches, pine needles, dirt, etc.). I've heard guys boil cedar & bottling for their own scent spray. Anyone tried that with success.

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#6619890 - 01/06/17 03:55 PM Re: Another experiment: opinions? [Re: Red Cloud]
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Objective studies using dogs have been done to show scent-elimination stuff has little to no effect. Probably no effect, but in a couple of the experiments the dogs did take a little longer (as in a few more seconds to 30 seconds) to find a couple of the test subjects. So they said "little to no" effect.

Use common sense, hunt the wind, and save your money.
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#6621155 - 01/07/17 12:28 PM Re: Another experiment: opinions? [Re: Red Cloud]
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Registered: 01/20/14
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Loc: Brown County
If you hunt like the vast majority of Texans (from a blind at a feeder) there will nearly always be some human scent in the area. When you leave, all your scent doesn't go with you, it lingers long after your gone. Having said that, I believe the use of scent elimination/masking products can make a difference in a deer thinking you ARE there, or you WERE there. I use Scent Away products, and do feel, regardless of any studies done, that it can help. Obviously I hunt the wind first, and will never hunt a stand with the wrong wind, but on numerous occasions I have had deer leave a feeder and cross downwind of me without showing any concern at all. Not always, but often enough to make me think there are some merits to these products.
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#6621184 - 01/07/17 12:57 PM Re: Another experiment: opinions? [Re: Theringworm]
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Originally Posted By: Theringworm
Originally Posted By: Jgraider
Scent killing products are a farce. They do nothing to eliminate the odor coming from your mouth, and even eyes. Huge scam. As others have said, hunt the wind.


I have almost totally bought into this thought after this year and my personal experiences. I have walked a trail and not 5-10 mins later had deer travel the same trail in my direction. When the urge arises I have gotten out of the blind, found the nearest tree or bush closest to the stand, done my business whether #1 or #2, and have had deer walk right over it 20 to 40 mins later. About all I will do is shampoo/wash with scent free soap. After that I am playing the wind. Sure, I try and keep my clothes in a bag that won't smell like fast food on the way to the lease but that's just common sense.


I also think the "scent free" stuff is as useless as a lot of other gadgets in the hunting world. Hunting from an elevation and hunting the wind is a biggie.
I walk my feeders a few times a week to get the animal accustomed to my scent. Just part of the everyday routine.
And I agree, all of the scent block in the world can't do a thing about expelling a cubic foot of air every few minutes.
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#6621229 - 01/07/17 01:40 PM Re: Another experiment: opinions? [Re: Red Cloud]
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About the only time I worry about scent is when I'm rattling, I take cedar and crush it up in my hands and rub it on my clothes also might step in a little cow chit if available.
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