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#6616961 - 01/04/17 07:43 PM GOP House Moves Against Public Lands on Its Opening Day
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Edited by Palehorse (01/04/17 07:45 PM)
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“He grouped his last five shots right in the center of the bull’s-eye. Then I showed him my technique of scattering shots randomly around the target because, as I explained, you never know which way the deer might jump just as you pull the trigger.”

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#6617102 - 01/04/17 08:56 PM Re: GOP House Moves Against Public Lands on Its Opening Day [Re: Palehorse]
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I like this quote by Steven Rinella,


“Forfeiture of our federal public lands is another one of those ideas put forth by reckless politicians looking to make a short-term splash without any serious thought to the consequences of their actions. This will lead to more gates, more industrial disturbance, and less wildlife. Pardon the frankness, but this is a downright stupid idea.”


Edited by Palehorse (01/04/17 08:57 PM)
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“He grouped his last five shots right in the center of the bull’s-eye. Then I showed him my technique of scattering shots randomly around the target because, as I explained, you never know which way the deer might jump just as you pull the trigger.”

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#6617515 - 01/05/17 08:12 AM Re: GOP House Moves Against Public Lands on Its Opening Day [Re: Palehorse]
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Stupid

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#6621011 - 01/07/17 10:17 AM Re: GOP House Moves Against Public Lands on Its Opening Day [Re: Palehorse]
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“He grouped his last five shots right in the center of the bull’s-eye. Then I showed him my technique of scattering shots randomly around the target because, as I explained, you never know which way the deer might jump just as you pull the trigger.”

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#6621020 - 01/07/17 10:26 AM Re: GOP House Moves Against Public Lands on Its Opening Day [Re: Palehorse]
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This video discusses why the states constitutionally REQUIRED to sell off public land to private parties if it is not turning a profit. I'm telling you folks, they are gearing up to sell YOUR land to the biggest political money contributors and you won't see a dime. You will only lose access.

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“He grouped his last five shots right in the center of the bull’s-eye. Then I showed him my technique of scattering shots randomly around the target because, as I explained, you never know which way the deer might jump just as you pull the trigger.”

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#6621024 - 01/07/17 10:30 AM Re: GOP House Moves Against Public Lands on Its Opening Day [Re: Palehorse]
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Here is why is is almost guaranteed that the Federal land will get sold when the states get control.

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#6621027 - 01/07/17 10:32 AM Re: GOP House Moves Against Public Lands on Its Opening Day [Re: Palehorse]
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#6623438 - 01/09/17 05:35 AM Re: GOP House Moves Against Public Lands on Its Opening Day [Re: Palehorse]
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Traitors. Selling off our kids' inheritance for a quick buck. Destroying one of the last things that makes unique as a country. Of course people with money won't care one whit.

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#6623565 - 01/09/17 08:04 AM Re: GOP House Moves Against Public Lands on Its Opening Day [Re: Palehorse]
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I'm glad at least some understand what's going on.......
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#6624484 - 01/09/17 05:24 PM Re: GOP House Moves Against Public Lands on Its Opening Day [Re: Palehorse]
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The death of public lands spells the eventual death for most outdoor sports and American traditions, hunting included. The rich will always have private playgrounds, but fine old American traditions like squirrel and coon hunting will disappear.

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#6624521 - 01/09/17 05:52 PM Re: GOP House Moves Against Public Lands on Its Opening Day [Re: Palehorse]
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wHAT DID YOU EXPECT
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#6624763 - 01/09/17 07:51 PM Re: GOP House Moves Against Public Lands on Its Opening Day [Re: Palehorse]
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Why would the Feds even consider giving federal lands to the states? Why not sell them outright and use the money to pay off the national debt?

The western states have done everything possible to exclude nonresident hunters which has done little to keep public lands public. They shouldn't be surprised that their selfish behaviors are having consequences.


Edited by Whiptail (01/09/17 09:55 PM)

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#6625317 - 01/10/17 01:06 AM Re: GOP House Moves Against Public Lands on Its Opening Day [Re: Palehorse]
machine73 Offline
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There is no reducing the debt. The money goes to special interest groups to buy votes. The more money you give them, the more they spend,

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#6625430 - 01/10/17 07:09 AM Re: GOP House Moves Against Public Lands on Its Opening Day [Re: Palehorse]
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Whiptail's 2nd paragraph is what Ive been whining about for 40 years ...and ya'll can see how successful I've been with that refusal to spend my $'s buying the rope they are hanging Non Resident Hunters out to dry with...same Classic story as shown in my Sig line about Aesops's fables.
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#6625450 - 01/10/17 07:32 AM Re: GOP House Moves Against Public Lands on Its Opening Day [Re: Palehorse]
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There are two sides to the nonresident hunter deal.

First, the western states do have to pay for game management (even on federal lands), so a preference for residents who shoulder that cost is understandable.

Second, the market keeps telling western states they can raise prices, mandate expensive license purchases, cut NR tags - and STILL make a bunch of $$$ off of nonresidents. Simply put, it's capitalism. The demand for tags is greater than the supply - so people are willing to pay to play.

Arlington gets most of its share of the new stadiums paid for through hotel taxes, rental car taxes, and other taxes paid by non-Arlington residents. It's the same principle.

All that said, the standard 10% nonresident allocation for premium tags most states now have is ridiculous. And the application costs are beyond what many can realistically afford. So some changes are in definitely in order.

But a NR who is willing to do a little research can still hunt elk, mule deer, and antelope every year in western states without breaking the bank. Are they the premium units with 200" deer and 400" elk? No, but those animals have never been easy to come by anyway.
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