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#6613835 - 01/03/17 07:58 AM Best Thermal for under $3000.
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What's the best thermal with 2 gun settings for under 3 grand? Way to many choices for me to sort through.


Edited by HornSlayer (01/03/17 07:59 AM)

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#6613849 - 01/03/17 08:04 AM Re: Best Thermal for under $3000. [Re: HornSlayer]
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I might add reliability, visibility, ease of use are most important to me.

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#6614602 - 01/03/17 02:51 PM Re: Best Thermal for under $3000. [Re: HornSlayer]
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The good news is... for under $3k you don't have much to pick from. smile

I have a FLIR-based Thor 19mm (not the new HD models which have varying reputations depending on who you ask). It's good to 100 yds, but that's about it for clear sighting and it does have (4) profiles. My "Holiday Hogs" post below has some video where I state the distance I'm shooting at.

I'd recommend the Pulsar XD-38A (don't know if it has the multiple profile capability). It has a 38mm objective @ 50hz which really matter for the visibility part. UNV has them with the DVR for $2,999, so you'll just squeak by.

Don't try and compare what you see in the IR Defense Patrol videos for example, with what you're going to get for $3k.

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#6615393 - 01/03/17 10:14 PM Re: Best Thermal for under $3000. [Re: HornSlayer]
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Charlies correct, not many options under 3. You can find a good deal on a used unit but you're still looking at either a pulsar, an ATN or an armasight product. Pulsar or Armasight is what to look at. The new ATN scopes don't have a great reputation. With the pulsar though you'll need to upgrade the mount in order to use the multi rifle abilities. The factory mount sucks big time. Armasight comes with a good mount but for the Zeus you'll be spending a little more than the pulsar. Feel free to shoot me a message and I'm glad to help you research. I been doing the thermal thing for quite some time now.
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#6615819 - 01/04/17 09:02 AM Re: Best Thermal for under $3000. [Re: HornSlayer]
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Interesting, the Pulsar mount seems to work very well as a non-QD type mount. Very solid.
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#6615891 - 01/04/17 09:49 AM Re: Best Thermal for under $3000. [Re: HornSlayer]
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I have no issues with the Pulsar mount either. Budget is everything when it comes to thermal. Personally, I think you will be underwhelmed with the cheaper scopes unless you always hunt in a short, closed in area.

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#6615940 - 01/04/17 10:24 AM Re: Best Thermal for under $3000. [Re: HornSlayer]
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Spend a little more and get an XD50a or XD50S....that will still be $3500-3900. You'll be much happier with the extra magnification.

After that I don't see a point in spending more unless you are stepping up to a Mark II which is $6500.

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#6616001 - 01/04/17 11:04 AM Re: Best Thermal for under $3000. [Re: HornSlayer]
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When is Flir going to come out with their rendition of an Armasight scope?

I have the same budget as you (3k) and I was super pumped up about IR Defense's announcement of a budget line with decent resolution, this was about a year ago based on a new cheaper core.

Well IRD sold out Trijicon and it never came to be - too bad it would have changed the entire market....

I have more patience than money so I'm waiting for the market to get crowded at 3k before buying
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#6616105 - 01/04/17 12:11 PM Re: Best Thermal for under $3000. [Re: Double Naught Spy]
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Originally Posted By: Double Naught Spy
Interesting, the Pulsar mount seems to work very well as a non-QD type mount. Very solid.


It's fine as a permanent mount but the OP specifically said he wants to use it on multiple guns. As a QD mount it sucks. The solution is the ultimate night vision pnvm plus a quality QD acog mount of your choice. Then it's a reliable multi weapon scope.
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#6616115 - 01/04/17 12:17 PM Re: Best Thermal for under $3000. [Re: HornSlayer]
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Flir is coming out with a version of the armasight zeus. That said it's still pretty much just a zeus with a new name. Same body and whatnot. The Zeus is good option also if you can get to around 4 you might be able to get a lightly used 640 Zeus 42.
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#6616142 - 01/04/17 12:25 PM Re: Best Thermal for under $3000. [Re: HornSlayer]
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I invested an extra $140 and put a qd mount under my XD50A. I switch it back and forth between my AR and my 22 mag. Good enough to shoot coons at 50 with the WMR then shoot coyotes out to 180 with the AR.

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#6616540 - 01/04/17 03:55 PM Re: Best Thermal for under $3000. [Re: HornSlayer]
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I'm new to the thermal and interested in the Pulsar XD50 and adding the DVR. What's the difference/advantage between XD50A and the XD50S. Thanks guys

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#6616643 - 01/04/17 04:54 PM Re: Best Thermal for under $3000. [Re: Always ready 2 hunt]
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Originally Posted By: Always ready 2 hunt
I'm new to the thermal and interested in the Pulsar XD50 and adding the DVR. What's the difference/advantage between XD50A and the XD50S. Thanks guys


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#6616927 - 01/04/17 07:26 PM Re: Best Thermal for under $3000. [Re: HornSlayer]
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#6617463 - 01/05/17 07:48 AM Re: Best Thermal for under $3000. [Re: fr3db3ar]
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Originally Posted By: fr3db3ar
I invested an extra $140 and put a qd mount under my XD50A. I switch it back and forth between my AR and my 22 mag. Good enough to shoot coons at 50 with the WMR then shoot coyotes out to 180 with the AR.


Which mount did you buy. I can't tell the difference based on pictures. I've used the cheap Chinese stuff before. Can you share a link?

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