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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
[Re: Rebel986]
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01/04/17 05:53 PM
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in my mind, a HF place is the same as a large LF place. eventually you get so big the deer can't physically leave the place (or won't) so it is essentially the same. The biggest difference comes in smaller places, sub 500 acres. I could hunt a sub 500 acre LF place and see the same deer or different deer every time, due to deer travel patterns, but a HF place the deer will be confined and thus same deer (but doesn't mean you will see them every time).
As Bobo said, ther eis only so much ground one person can cover, and if hunting multiple people there becomes a point where you will hinder other people too..how much acreage is determined largely by the type of terrain being hunted, but there does come a point where there will be diminishing returns.
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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What I have learned from the HF threads: You gotta have HFs to protect "your" deer because the neighbors shoot everything. But it's all the same because the fences don't work anyway. It's all the same because hunting is hard anyway. It's all the same because hunting is easy anyway. Gotta have HF to keep "your" deer from traveling onto bad neighbor's land. But it's all the same because deer don't travel much anyway. Those with fair chase standards are jealous low-rent rednecks because they can't afford to hunt HF. Those with fair chase standards are elitists who look down their nose at others. Generalizations aren't fair to use for those who don't like HF. But generalizations using "out there" examples like islands (as if deer can't swim), tame suburban deer, and the King Ranch are fine if you support HF. That would be the abridged version.
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
[Re: Rebel986]
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01/04/17 06:13 PM
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what have i started lol. Sorry dont live in texas and didnt know this was a big deal to people
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
[Re: MarkE]
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01/04/17 06:18 PM
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There's a reason HF hunts are 100% successful. We all know what it is. Shhhhh.....don't tell anyone. That is bad for business! I have a bull eland in a 500 acre pasture. Probably weighs 1400 pounds. So he should be easy to see. You two who think my hunts are "100%%" successful come on down. I'll give you 2 days to hunt him. You kill him he's free. You don't kill him you pay me 4 grand for the tresspass fee. Get your bad selves down here and get your free eland bull! Lmao!!!! Watch the excuses....
Crotchety old bastidge
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
[Re: Rebel986]
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Yep, those high-fenced deer are easy to hunt. That's why a 12 year old just spent a week with me on 1,800 high-fenced acres chasing one specific cull buck. And never laid eyes on him. That's why I just spent 11 straight days looking for one of five mature, trophy deer. Never laid eyes on any of them. Maybe it's because after 45 years of chasing these things, I'm still not a very good hunter
Meanwhile, we killed every deer we were after on our 900 ac. low-fenced pasture which borders 54,000 acres of low fence.
I know that will never change anyone's mind, but this isn't the first time it has happened to me. And it won't be the last. Now we only carry a deer to 26 acres, so perhaps the high-fenced places y'all are referring to are more released deer operations, or those with a deer to three acres. I've hunted some of those, too. Those are completely different than a true high-fenced ranch with pasture born deer.
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
[Re: therancher]
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There's a reason HF hunts are 100% successful. We all know what it is. Shhhhh.....don't tell anyone. That is bad for business! I have a bull eland in a 500 acre pasture. Probably weighs 1400 pounds. So he should be easy to see. You two who think my hunts are "100%%" successful come on down. I'll give you 2 days to hunt him. You kill him he's free. You don't kill him you pay me 4 grand for the tresspass fee. Get your bad selves down here and get your free eland bull! Lmao!!!! Watch the excuses.... I'm in under those specifications
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
[Re: Rebel986]
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what have i started lol. Sorry dont live in texas and didnt know this was a big deal to people its human nature.... someones always gota have a problem... its just easier to express it this day and age
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
[Re: Rebel986]
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what have i started lol. Sorry dont live in texas and didnt know this was a big deal to people Foreigners...
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
[Re: therancher]
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There's a reason HF hunts are 100% successful. We all know what it is. Shhhhh.....don't tell anyone. That is bad for business! I have a bull eland in a 500 acre pasture. Probably weighs 1400 pounds. So he should be easy to see. You two who think my hunts are "100%%" successful come on down. I'll give you 2 days to hunt him. You kill him he's free. You don't kill him you pay me 4 grand for the tresspass fee. Get your bad selves down here and get your free eland bull! Lmao!!!! Watch the excuses....
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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There's a reason HF hunts are 100% successful. We all know what it is. Shhhhh.....don't tell anyone. That is bad for business! I have a bull eland in a 500 acre pasture. Probably weighs 1400 pounds. So he should be easy to see. You two who think my hunts are "100%%" successful come on down. I'll give you 2 days to hunt him. You kill him he's free. You don't kill him you pay me 4 grand for the tresspass fee. Get your bad selves down here and get your free eland bull! Lmao!!!! Watch the excuses.... I'm in under those specifications Man, something in me wants to see Bobo with a bull eland on the ground....
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
[Re: BOBO the Clown]
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There's a reason HF hunts are 100% successful. We all know what it is. Shhhhh.....don't tell anyone. That is bad for business! I have a bull eland in a 500 acre pasture. Probably weighs 1400 pounds. So he should be easy to see. You two who think my hunts are "100%%" successful come on down. I'll give you 2 days to hunt him. You kill him he's free. You don't kill him you pay me 4 grand for the tresspass fee. Get your bad selves down here and get your free eland bull! Lmao!!!! Watch the excuses.... I'm in under those specifications It's only open to the two who are convinced HF hunts are 100%. You don't qualify as that ignorant.
Crotchety old bastidge
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
[Re: therancher]
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01/04/17 06:30 PM
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Please someone go kill his livestock, I mean Eland.
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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What I have learned from the HF threads: You gotta have HFs to protect "your" deer because the neighbors shoot everything. But it's all the same because the fences don't work anyway. It's all the same because hunting is hard anyway. It's all the same because hunting is easy anyway. Gotta have HF to keep "your" deer from traveling onto bad neighbor's land. But it's all the same because deer don't travel much anyway. Those with fair chase standards are jealous low-rent rednecks because they can't afford to hunt HF. Those with fair chase standards are elitists who look down their nose at others. Generalizations aren't fair to use for those who don't like HF. But generalizations using "out there" examples like islands (as if deer can't swim), tame suburban deer, and the King Ranch are fine if you support HF. Says the guy who shoots farm raised quail in a HF pasture... so long as they can fly. So if the deer can run are they ok?
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
[Re: redchevy]
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01/04/17 06:33 PM
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What I have learned from the HF threads: You gotta have HFs to protect "your" deer because the neighbors shoot everything. But it's all the same because the fences don't work anyway. It's all the same because hunting is hard anyway. It's all the same because hunting is easy anyway. Gotta have HF to keep "your" deer from traveling onto bad neighbor's land. But it's all the same because deer don't travel much anyway. Those with fair chase standards are jealous low-rent rednecks because they can't afford to hunt HF. Those with fair chase standards are elitists who look down their nose at others. Generalizations aren't fair to use for those who don't like HF. But generalizations using "out there" examples like islands (as if deer can't swim), tame suburban deer, and the King Ranch are fine if you support HF. Says the guy who shoots farm raised quail in a HF pasture... so long as they can fly. So if the deer can run are they ok? Aggie logic?
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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Please someone go kill his livestock, I mean Eland. Yes please. We've had one hunter for 4 days specifically hunting him. I've had a discounted price on him for 6 months and all the hunters I've had said they'd shoot him if they saw him. We even tried to kill him from a chopper. We've chopper netted all the other eland and killed one from the air. This one learned to hide good when he hears any motors especially choppers . He's been seen by my ranch hand and one other person. And I see his tracks so I know he's still there. But the bet would put money my pocket or I wouldn't have made it.
Crotchety old bastidge
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
[Re: Rebel986]
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01/04/17 06:47 PM
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HF or LF, it's 303 days until deer season is here again.
...and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Gen. 1:28
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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Please someone go kill his livestock, I mean Eland. Yes please. We've had one hunter for 4 days specifically hunting him. I've had a discounted price on him for 6 months and all the hunters I've had said they'd shoot him if they saw him. We even tried to kill him from a chopper. We've chopper netted all the other eland and killed one from the air. This one learned to hide good when he hears any motors especially choppers . He's been seen by my ranch hand and one other person. And I see his tracks so I know he's still there. But the bet would put money my pocket or I wouldn't have made it. That's a very generous offer, rancher. $4,000 for an animal he'd otherwise have to go to Africa to hunt. Some of the finest meat I've ever eaten and lots of it! Heck, the plane fare alone is twice that much. If I was billy-bad-arse in shape island hunter, I'd be on this like white on rice. But I'm just a lazy, fat HF hunter who kills every deer I'm after, every time, from my recliner
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
[Re: Rebel986]
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
[Re: Rebel986]
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It's only open to the two who are convinced HF hunts are 100%. You don't qualify as that ignorant.
"That ignorant" I'll hunt water for 48hrs straight
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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Please someone go kill his livestock, I mean Eland. Yes please. We've had one hunter for 4 days specifically hunting him. I've had a discounted price on him for 6 months and all the hunters I've had said they'd shoot him if they saw him. We even tried to kill him from a chopper. We've chopper netted all the other eland and killed one from the air. This one learned to hide good when he hears any motors especially choppers . He's been seen by my ranch hand and one other person. And I see his tracks so I know he's still there. But the bet would put money my pocket or I wouldn't have made it. That's a very generous offer, rancher. $4,000 for an animal he'd otherwise have to go to Africa to hunt. Some of the finest meat I've ever eaten and lots of it! Heck, the plane fare alone is twice that much. If I was billy-bad-arse in shape island hunter, I'd be on this like white on rice. But I'm just a lazy, fat HF hunter who kills every deer I'm after, every time, from my recliner NOOOO!!!!! It's FREEEE to billy bad arse!!! If he kills it.
Crotchety old bastidge
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
[Re: therancher]
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There's a reason HF hunts are 100% successful. We all know what it is. Shhhhh.....don't tell anyone. That is bad for business! I have a bull eland in a 500 acre pasture. Probably weighs 1400 pounds. So he should be easy to see. You two who think my hunts are "100%%" successful come on down. I'll give you 2 days to hunt him. You kill him he's free. You don't kill him you pay me 4 grand for the tresspass fee. Get your bad selves down here and get your free eland bull! Lmao!!!! Watch the excuses.... Give me 5 days like one of my mule deer hunts.
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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What I have learned from the HF threads: You gotta have HFs to protect "your" deer because the neighbors shoot everything. But it's all the same because the fences don't work anyway. It's all the same because hunting is hard anyway. It's all the same because hunting is easy anyway. Gotta have HF to keep "your" deer from traveling onto bad neighbor's land. But it's all the same because deer don't travel much anyway. Those with fair chase standards are jealous low-rent rednecks because they can't afford to hunt HF. Those with fair chase standards are elitists who look down their nose at others. Generalizations aren't fair to use for those who don't like HF. But generalizations using "out there" examples like islands (as if deer can't swim), tame suburban deer, and the King Ranch are fine if you support HF. Says the guy who shoots farm raised quail in a HF pasture... so long as they can fly. So if the deer can run are they ok? Aggie logic? I believe Nog is a long horn, I'm just trying to understand his logic.
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
[Re: Rebel986]
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I can't understand your reply. It makes no sense to me. Sorry. The bird posts were sarcasm because birds can fly, which kinda makes a high fence irrelevant. Anyway, I'm not a quail hunter.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
[Re: Rebel986]
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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Ok wait who said all HF hunts have 100% success rate?
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