How is trying to protect our American heritage, anti-American?
Reminds me of an old Joni Mitchell song

"They cut down all the trees, and put 'em in a tree museum,
" then they charge everybody a dollar and a half just to see um,
"Don't it always seem to go, that you don't know what you've got til its gone, they paved paradise, and put up parking lot"
I think that pretty much sums it up.

This isn't about who's best at management, congress has the purse strings on how much $ goes into our lands. What if the feds came to your ranch, declared they could manage it better than you, and took it from you using "eminent domain". Don't tell me you'd roll over for them. People need to educate themselves on this issue. Look up videos from Randy Newburg on public land transfer.

Once again, watch Randy Newburg's videos. He explains it perfectly.... Funny, on this same issue over in public hunting forum, everyone is in agreement that this is a bad idea. This thread, about the same issue, people are saying giving away our lands is a good thing. Alternate reality universe in which we live

Here's the thread.

http://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/6616961/1

I agree. Danged if I'll be a party to it. Can't believe a bunch of hunters/supposed outdoors folks/supposed conservationists can be swayed off-course so easily. (Well, actually, I can...)

Agreed

I can't believe conservationists/hunters want to continue to let the fed mis-manage 1/3 of the land mass. Especially since states and private entities can do it cheaper and so very much better.

Again NP and Erath more hot air, no facts just oh he said Just because Randy says so makes it correct and factual? NO

That is like saying Hillary said it was true and she has never lied or misrepresented the truth

One of you Blow Hards attach a credible link (no libertarian gossip columns) that shows any of these states selling public land that are being used by the public and was not losing money. Also prove that the state has sold more public land than it has acquired during a long period.

http://www.fieldandstream.com/articles/h...-fishing#page-2


• Nevada was given 2.7 million acres of federal land when it became a state in 1864. All but 3,000 acres of that has been sold off.
• Utah has already sold more than 50 percent of the lands granted to it at statehood.
• Idaho has sold off 41 percent of its state lands since gaining statehood in 1890, which equates to 13,500 acres per year going into private hands.
And the history of land under state ownership is not good. A report by Backcountry Hunters & Anglers, a national sportsmen’s conservation group, cites these figures:
• In Colorado, only 20 percent of state trust lands are open to the public for hunting and fishing.
• To help ease budget woes in Wisconsin, the state is currently in the process of selling off 10,000 acres of state-owned land.
• In Oregon, as timber revenue from it has declined, the state has been forced to auction off the 92,000-acre Elliot State Forest. Oregon was originally granted 3.4 million acres and has only 776,000 acres left.
• In Idaho, a European-esque hunt club has leased state land for exclusive hunting rights.

"The new leaders of the so-called “divestiture movement” are not ranchers, at least not in the conventional sense. They are inspired by the work of theorists and political appointees like Terry L. Anderson, who wrote “How and Why to Privatize Federal Lands” in 1999. They are men like Utah State Rep. Ken Ivory, of the American Lands Council, a group advocating for the transfer of public lands to the states. Ivory, who sponsored legislation that would do just that, told reporters that the transfer of the lands was “like having your hands on the lever of a new Louisiana Purchase.” (Of course, in the Louisiana Purchase, the U.S. actually bought 827 million acres from France, paying $15 million. Ivory makes no mention of buying any public land from the American people who currently own and use it.)

Rep. Ivory is not a rancher. He represents the district of West Jordan, Utah, a suburb of Salt Lake City, but he knows where the money is in American land. His group receives funding from Americans for Prosperity, the main political advocacy arm of Charles and David Koch, of Koch Industries. Ivory’s bill, the 2012 Transfer of Public Lands Act, has been followed by similar bills in the legislatures of 10 Western states. The Utah legislature has passed a resolution to spend $14 million of Utah taxpayers’ money on a lawsuit against the federal government, demanding transfer of all public lands within the state."

Thank You Palehorse

My position has always been only give it to the states with a provision they would not sell it unless it was not being used by the public and was losing money. After reading the F&S article my position has changed to keep it with the Federal Government but do an overhaul on management

Truly Yours Blow Hart Jr.

Stub, blowhards? Really? I would've expected more from someone that I've known for over 30 years, but you always did let your "bulldog mouth outrun your chihuahua arse". I'll put my IQ and my bank statement against yours anytime, buddy

http://sportsmensaccess.org/

If you would like to oppose this transfer, please take a moment to sign the petition the site linked above. It reads this:

"Sportsman opposing the sale or transfer of public lands

Dear State and National Decision Makers:

As an American sportsman who values public lands for hunting and fishing, I request that you actively pledge your support for America's public lands legacy and oppose efforts to transfer federal public lands to individual states.

America's public lands managed by agencies such as the U.S. Forest Service and Bureau of Land Management provide important fish and wildlife habitat and public access for hunting and fishing. Millions of Americans use these lands to spend time with their families, put food on their tables and enjoy the great outdoors.

States are simply not equipped to support the enormous costs associated with managing public lands. State ownership would result in the fire sale of public lands to billionaires and foreign companies, where millions of acres would be closed to public access and an American birthright would be lost. "

Done

I love it when folks don't study chit, buy into crap just because some politician they like says to, ignores all points/facts presented, and then calls others ignorant, blowhards, etc.

It's pretty much becoming the THF blueprint.

Wow....this has to get the Irony of the Year Award. If no such award exists, there needs to be one just for this instance. Just think, you could be a trailblazer.