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#6581833 - 12/11/16 10:44 AM alpha female gsp
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I will NEVER buy another alpha female pup again -------- she wants to be the the boss no matter what the issue is------ she is nearly immune to the elect collar --- she points well and would never bump a bird, but she just wont obey without being told 4 times, hardheaded would give an accurate picture of her. Is it possible she got this way watching my wife ??

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#6582168 - 12/11/16 03:46 PM Re: alpha female gsp [Re: nate33]
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#6582325 - 12/11/16 05:37 PM Re: alpha female gsp [Re: nate33]
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I would guess she's not the bitch in this relationship.
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#6582347 - 12/11/16 05:54 PM Re: alpha female gsp [Re: nate33]
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I sounds like estrogen rules at your house.
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#6582351 - 12/11/16 05:59 PM Re: alpha female gsp [Re: nate33]
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Turn up the juice on that collar. If that doesn't work picking her up by the ears followed by a good shake will get her attention.

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#6582362 - 12/11/16 06:08 PM Re: alpha female gsp [Re: nate33]
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Ten thousand comedians out of work and you post this crap.
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#6582569 - 12/11/16 08:10 PM Re: alpha female gsp [Re: nate33]
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Bill,,, its not crap,,, if you had any experience with dogs you would understand the problem.
I have turned the collar up,,,,I have not tried grabbing her by the ears,,, that will be my next attempt at getting her attention.

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#6582672 - 12/11/16 09:27 PM Re: alpha female gsp [Re: nate33]
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Rope, pinch collar, heeling stick.....work on obedience. You can pick her up by the ears and light her up all you want and I bet you don't get very far but good luck.


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#6582979 - 12/12/16 07:36 AM Re: alpha female gsp [Re: nate33]
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I'm not an expert, so take what I say we a grain of salt. I'm always on my dog even around the house. We can be inside and il tell her to sit and stay, if she breaks, we'll discipline bring her back and get her to stay put. After about a yr of constant reminder of you do what I say and when, the dog will learn this is your show and not hers. Discipline can be grabbing em by the hide and dragging em back to where you told em to stay. You push their butt down tell em to sit point at em and tell em to stay. Be firm in your commands, but realize it's a learning process for the dog also. I try this with my wife also, I think her and the dog are related

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#6582988 - 12/12/16 07:39 AM Re: alpha female gsp [Re: nate33]
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And positive reinforce good behavior. Let em know when they do good. Get excited rub their heads, rub their ears, put your face by theirs and love em up. They ll know when they did good and want to do it again. My wife is the same way

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#6583005 - 12/12/16 07:50 AM Re: alpha female gsp [Re: nate33]
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#6583037 - 12/12/16 08:09 AM Re: alpha female gsp [Re: nate33]
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put the e-collar around the flank. That was the only thing my alpha gyp gsp understood.

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#6583349 - 12/12/16 10:50 AM Re: alpha female gsp [Re: nate33]
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I"ll try around the flank,,, that sounds better than the ear 'method' ------ Thanks for everyone's input.

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#6583351 - 12/12/16 10:51 AM Re: alpha female gsp [Re: nate33]
nate33 Offline
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pervis -------- the positive approach that you described is my normal method, it just is not cutting thru her alpha attitude.

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#6583799 - 12/12/16 04:07 PM Re: alpha female gsp [Re: nate33]
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I have a GWP just under 6 months and he's super intelligent, high desire, but stubborn as heck as well. I've found keeping him on a pinch collar and lead during training, walks, and a couple hours a day at my side works better than striking him. He will comply with the collar on when told to sit, heel, stay, no, ect. I will transition to a shock collar to get him to come without pulling on the lead pretty soon (he has a tendency to stop about 5 feet from me to "own the bumper/bird). I also recommend leaving him with a professional for a month or so of training. Most of the good trainers will take a pointer for puppy training at the 6 month age for a month or so to assess the dog. Seems like the going rate is around $750 for the month. The dog will learn to be a dog when kenneled with half dozen other pointers. It will knock of some of the spoiling she has gotten from being a family pet. Plus some pointers seem to learn better working with older dogs, where she won't be the Alpha. Keep with it and don't give in to beating the dog to the point it where it runs from you and doesn't want to train with you out of fear.


Edited by LReichardt (12/12/16 04:09 PM)

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