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#6566674 - 11/30/16 09:53 PM Waiting on chains to rattle
DesertHunting Offline
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Loc: Terrell County - Sanderson
Cut some good lion sign. Sow and her cub.



Size 12





Made two sets in this area.
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#6566682 - 11/30/16 09:57 PM Re: Waiting on chains to rattle [Re: DesertHunting]
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Loc: Terrell County - Sanderson
Blind trail set




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#6566687 - 11/30/16 10:00 PM Re: Waiting on chains to rattle [Re: DesertHunting]
DesertHunting Offline
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Flat set with fake scrapes and cat toilet





Newhouse #4 1/2

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#6568147 - 12/02/16 06:00 AM Re: Waiting on chains to rattle [Re: DesertHunting]
Blackrain Offline
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Those are not lion tracks.

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#6568154 - 12/02/16 06:18 AM Re: Waiting on chains to rattle [Re: DesertHunting]
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popcorn

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#6568339 - 12/02/16 09:04 AM Re: Waiting on chains to rattle [Re: DesertHunting]
MrWood Offline
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I saw one of those larger prints the other day. If it's not a lion what is it?

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#6568391 - 12/02/16 09:37 AM Re: Waiting on chains to rattle [Re: DesertHunting]
Buzzard Breath Offline
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I think top two are coyote, third looks small...bobcat probably but I'm betting an expert will chime in shortly.

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#6568439 - 12/02/16 10:00 AM Re: Waiting on chains to rattle [Re: DesertHunting]
Erny Offline
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That top one is for sure not a cat. It's a dog of some type.

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#6568664 - 12/02/16 12:51 PM Re: Waiting on chains to rattle [Re: DesertHunting]
DesertHunting Offline
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I fully understand your thinking and how y'all have come to your conclusions.

Quit looking at the claws, the picture does not show their full story.
Tell me what else the picture tells you. And explain your reasoning.
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#6568670 - 12/02/16 12:54 PM Re: Waiting on chains to rattle [Re: DesertHunting]
Txcatman1 Offline
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Pad looks right on the first one, are they all the same, second set looks canine
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#6568698 - 12/02/16 01:08 PM Re: Waiting on chains to rattle [Re: DesertHunting]
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Second looks canine (longer than wide, teardrop shaped toes, claws, lack of 3 lobes on rear pad) but the first pic is confusing. Cant make out the pad, toes almost look circular like a cat instead of dog, and its wider like a cat. But the claws are out. Odd.

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#6568763 - 12/02/16 01:48 PM Re: Waiting on chains to rattle [Re: DesertHunting]
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They are all the same. All these tracks were right in a line on the path the sow took to water.

The picture tells the story.

Notice the soil was mud when the track was made. That throws everything off some.

In the first pic, notice the claw marks are nearly perfect circles. This is because cat claws curve down when extended. Looking at the track in person you could see how the claws traveled down into the mud instead of toward the path of travel like a canid. Also, when walking in mud, cats will extend their claws leaving the mark.

In the second pic, both the front and hind foot tracks are seen. The bottom being the front foot and the top being the hind foot. Again the mud has distorted the impression some but the third lobe is visible.

The third pic is of the cub. This soil was dryer than where the sow stepped so the claw marks are just barely pin pricks above the toes and the third lobe is visible.

This is in SW Texas, and still the cub's track is large for a bobcat tom. Plus other sign indicated this is a cub traveling with a sow.

Within twenty eight days, I should have pics of the catch.


This ain't my first rodeo, it's my job grin

This is not the lion I am looking for....swipes hand
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#6568772 - 12/02/16 01:55 PM Re: Waiting on chains to rattle [Re: DesertHunting]
Buzzard Breath Offline
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just learned a little bit, thanks for sharing.

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#6569237 - 12/02/16 08:27 PM Re: Waiting on chains to rattle [Re: DesertHunting]
Blackrain Offline
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Registered: 05/22/13
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http://www.bear-tracker.com/trackingvideos/cougartrackID/Howtoidentifyacougartrack.htm

Also notice your picture of the lion it has five toes on the front feet. The picture of the dog in your first picture only has four. A lion track only shows four except, when their paws are extended to grasp things. (AKA Killer claw). Also a lion has round tracks and is wider than long, saucer like.
But what distinguishes a cat track, are the three lobes on the rear of each heel pad.


Edited by Blackrain (12/02/16 09:09 PM)

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#6569311 - 12/02/16 09:37 PM Re: Waiting on chains to rattle [Re: Buzzard Breath]
DesertHunting Offline
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Loc: Terrell County - Sanderson
Originally Posted By: Buzzard Breath
just learned a little bit, thanks for sharing.


You are welcome.

I've still got plenty to learn too. If we're not learning, we're dead.
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