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#6563011 - 11/28/16 07:52 PM Teaching a pup to back
Old Hickory Offline
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I've got a 9 mth old gsp pup that I've been working with. Looking for opinions and suggestions on how and when to introduce backing. This is the first bird dog I have trained just looking for some help. Thanks

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#6563038 - 11/28/16 08:01 PM Re: Teaching a pup to back [Re: Old Hickory]
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It's natural. Most pups like to back. Teach whoa to enforce it.
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#6563297 - 11/28/16 10:22 PM Re: Teaching a pup to back [Re: Old Hickory]
nate33 Offline
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Bill is correct,,, whoa is the secret.

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#6563627 - 11/29/16 08:36 AM Re: Teaching a pup to back [Re: Old Hickory]
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Funny thing. Cracker started backing at a very young age. She's been known to back cow horns, a dog trailer, and road sighs.

Here she is backing at 6 months old.



She simply wont back another dog of any breed that is pointing skunks.
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#6563857 - 11/29/16 10:45 AM Re: Teaching a pup to back [Re: Old Hickory]
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My setter pup would back when his mama stopped to pee!
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#6564573 - 11/29/16 06:24 PM Re: Teaching a pup to back [Re: Old Hickory]
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Backing dummies are a waste of time in my opinion.
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#6564718 - 11/29/16 07:23 PM Re: Teaching a pup to back [Re: Old Hickory]
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I had a gyp that would teach a pup to back real quick
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#6564779 - 11/29/16 07:37 PM Re: Teaching a pup to back [Re: Old Hickory]
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Thanks I appreciate the info.

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#6567754 - 12/01/16 06:25 PM Re: Teaching a pup to back [Re: Old Hickory]
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As usual I am the oddball. I find dominant dogs do not back naturally. Also depending on another dog to whoa the whole time while your training the dominant dog to back him is too easy to lose control of the training situation. For that reason I use the remote backer. I also plant a couple of pigeons behind the remote backer in launchers to launch while the dominant dog is backing the remote backer


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#6567768 - 12/01/16 06:41 PM Re: Teaching a pup to back [Re: blanked]
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Originally Posted By: blanked
As usual I am the oddball. I find dominant dogs do not back naturally. Also depending on another dog to whoa the whole time while your training the dominant dog to back him is too easy to lose control of the training situation. For that reason I use the remote backer. I also plant a couple of pigeons behind the remote backer in launchers to launch while the dominant dog is backing the remote backer
Good technique right here. I never had a remote backer but I did have a wood dog I made that worked great. I did use launchers just like you. It helped reinforce the honoring of another dogs point. It was real fun watching a pointer slide to a stop on a back once trained right.

Now we had a old dog when I was a kid that would "teach" the other young dogs to back. You didn't steal Bozo's point but once. grin
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