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300BLK, not enough for hogs #6562068 11/28/16 04:36 PM
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Guess these guys didn't get the memo. All shots about 100yds shooting Chad's 125gr NBT. Upper is SAA with a BHW 16" 1:8 barrel. First time I've killed anything with the Photon. I am liking it so far. Only gripe I have is if you shoot with wind at your back you can just about watch the shot hit, with the wind in your face it blows the smoke back and can't see nothing but white for a second.

I like the way the 300 sounds when it hit pig. at 2350 fps there is the shot, brief delay and then a deep thump. Just sounds different then your faster rounds when they connect.

Shot the 1st one about dark walking into the backside of the feed pen. 1st round straight to the the chest, he took off toward me and 2nd one rolled him about the time he got to the front of the pen

Sat there for a few minutes, turned around to look at my other feeder and was fiddling with the brightness/focus on the Photon when the spotted one walked out. Dropped that one with a round to the right side of the noggin.

Decided it was time to chill and have a beer, about 30 minutes later the big one stepped out of the brush next to the feed pen. One round square in the chest and he took off. Ran right at me and died about 10 yds in front of my stand. Don't know if I would have found him in the dark if he went the other way as weeds are pretty much all knee to waist high this year.






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Re: 300BLK, not enough for hogs [Re: chalet] #6562160 11/28/16 05:18 PM
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Very Nice!! Love chad's reloads and the 300 blackout!

Re: 300BLK, not enough for hogs [Re: chalet] #6562176 11/28/16 05:24 PM
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Im not a 300 guy either but that's just bc Im not fond of the bullet selection for supersonics, but if you do your part it'll clearly work fine.

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Re: 300BLK, not enough for hogs [Re: chalet] #6562186 11/28/16 05:32 PM
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Yea, I hope that head is still around next time I go out so I can hang it on the wall.


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Re: 300BLK, not enough for hogs [Re: chalet] #6562229 11/28/16 05:59 PM
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Nice hogs! That big one would make a nice euro mount with those cutters.

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Originally Posted By: chalet


I like the way the 300 sounds when it hit pig. at 2350 fps there is the shot, brief delay and then a deep thump. Just sounds different then your faster rounds when they connect.



Yessr, pretty cool ain't it. Hits like a sledge hammer. I shoot the 110 gr Barnes in mine and have downed every pig shot with it so far, and some big ones too.

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Nice hogs. Good on the Photon!


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Nice hogs. Good on the Photon!
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Re: 300BLK, not enough for hogs [Re: chalet] #6562313 11/28/16 06:37 PM
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Pretty sure this is a different pig and he is still running around. Hopefully he is next up when I get back out there.



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Love it!!! Mine hogs seem to think the same thing!


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Re: 300BLK, not enough for hogs [Re: skinnerback] #6562509 11/28/16 08:45 PM
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I like the way the 300 sounds when it hit pig. at 2350 fps there is the shot, brief delay and then a deep thump. Just sounds different then your faster rounds when they connect.



Yessr, pretty cool ain't it. Hits like a sledge hammer. I shoot the 110 gr Barnes in mine and have downed every pig shot with it so far, and some big ones too.

Good shooting. up


That Barnes 110g is a good round. Downed several with it and it'll stop em with a good shot. Like any round on a hog, bad placement and they'll take off to never never land. And even with a good shot sometimes they'll get up and take off. Tough bastards.

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And even with a good shot sometimes they'll get up and take off. Tough bastards.


I have to relearn this every so often. Sometimes it is just worthwhile to put an extra shot into downed hogs to help make sure that they stay down. It sucks when you have 3 hogs down, go and get the truck and come back and realize only 2 are still there. bang


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Originally Posted By: Double Naught Spy
I have to relearn this every so often. Sometimes it is just worthwhile to put an extra shot into downed hogs to help make sure that they stay down. It sucks when you have 3 hogs down, go and get the truck and come back and realize only 2 are still there. bang

I've had this happen a couple of times. Shoot two, watch them go down, go back for the truck and there's only one hog to be found.
For a while, my hunting buddy & I adopted the philosophy "If it's worth shooting once, it's worth shooting twice!" We've somewhat gotten away from that practice, but nowadays when we're hunting together, one of us stays with the hogs while the other goes for the truck.


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Very nice. I've killed quite a few pigs with my 300.

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I have to relearn this every so often. Sometimes it is just worthwhile to put an extra shot into downed hogs to help make sure that they stay down. It sucks when you have 3 hogs down, go and get the truck and come back and realize only 2 are still there. bang

I've had this happen a couple of times. Shoot two, watch them go down, go back for the truck and there's only one hog to be found.
For a while, my hunting buddy & I adopted the philosophy "If it's worth shooting once, it's worth shooting twice!" We've somewhat gotten away from that practice, but nowadays when we're hunting together, one of us stays with the hogs while the other goes for the truck.


I have a good friend that likes to put one more in him when he's down, even if appears to be down down. We rib each other over it. Now there have been some big/old scrappy boars that went down and stayed down but just didn't want to die. Either shoot them again with the rifle up close, use a handgun, or stick them. I prefer the knife because it's quiet, but the 380 does get some action from time to time and heck it's kinda fun to test different handgun ammo on big thick pigs.

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What's interesting is my shot placement on pigs is different than a deer. On a pig, I aim for the neck and head area (see first picture below). The neck area will drop them in their tracks and




Below: The 2 dots on the left are great places to aim. The cluster of 3 white dots in a triangle can easily cause a pig to run after the shot. The 2 dots on the left will drop them and will break down the bone structure and not allow them to move. I have been shooting in these spots for years with great results.



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Let me tell y'all a little story about one particular hog. Hunting in Dilley, TX, and not more than 30 min after getting to the blind a 200+ lb hog comes strolling in. I bust him at prob 100 yards with a 300WSM right about where the middle dot is on that hog above. Not my best shot but I figured he'd go down. After the shot he took off running into the scrub brush dragging his left shoulder in the dirt. I'm talking about draaaaagging that shoulder. It's barely still attached. He goes into the brush and I'm not in the mood to chase after him. It's still early anyways so I keep sitting.

About 45 min later here comes another large group of pigs and bringing up the rear is old tripod still dragging his shoulder. Walking like Lt. Dan at the end of Forrest Gump. And where is this immortal freak headed? Straight to the feeder to eat. I end up letting him get to the feeder and let him get lined up directly behind a smaller guy and take a shot for a double. Smaller hog drops immediately (neck shot) and tripod takes another one to the chest. Does he drop? Nope. Ended up running another 80 yards or so and finally gave up the ghost.

When we gutted him he was caked with blood from snout to tail from the first shot. No idea how he stayed vertical losing that much juice. The second shot made a strawberry smoothie outta his heart and he STILL went 80 yards.

Bottom line: there is no magic "perfect" round that'll stop a hog with every hit short of a .50BMG. And hitting them with something like that just seems.......like a great idea rifle

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Had some bullfrogs get up and run away or wait jump away before. roflmao scared banana


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One hog stoodup in the bed of my truck after riding in the back for a bit and exit the tailgate after I opened it. I got chased and knifed. roflmao


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@ Paul Rogers, Which bullet were u shooting that night? Bullet construction makes a big difference in performance and effectiveness. If the bullet never made it through the shoulder and into the chest cavity, it's no wonder his shoulder was destroyed and he was still limping around. Sounds to me like the bullet was a "varmint" type of bullet designed to get through the shoulder of a bobcat/coyote (or maybe even some whitetail) but not through a Big hog's thick skin, hard gristle fat, lots of muscle/shoulder meat, dense bone and sometimes a lot of mud caked on the outside. So a varmint bullet would likely fragment into the shoulder and bone and never make it to the vitals leaving a nasty shallow wound but not killig the hog. I assume a bullet in that caliber (300 wsm) designed to expand and penetrate deeper without fragmenting would have killed that hog 80 yards away from the 1st shot. But then again there are those zombie hogs that just don't want to die!!

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I've been running a 300 blackout for a few years. I built it up just for hog hunting. I was so excited that as I started to build and add I kind of lost track and did not run all my research I should have. End up dropping atn xsight 5x18 and added a silencer co supresser. Shot a bunch of targets and fell in love with it. Went on my first hunt and bounced a round right off the forehead of a big boar. He just shook his head and ran off. Next morning I set up on a pond and slide a round in the ear of a big sal. She took off running so I pumped a few more rounds in her till she fell. Upon cleaning her I found my issue. Penetration was not good. I was shoot 220 grain
subsonic with my supresser and it was deadly quite but the rounds were not moving fast enough to even expand the round. I got down on myself cause I had over a few grand in it with everyone added and it was not going to do what I wanted it to. So I made some adjustments now shoot 115 grain super sonic picked up about 1400 more fps and have since killed numerous animals. It's def not as quiet as it was or that I wanted but atleast I can hunt with it and can still shoot target supressed with subsonic ammo. So as long as your hunting with supersonic or something similar it can be a great killing machine just not subsonic ammo

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^^^ You are correct on the lack of energy with the subs. If you keep in mind that a 208 grain A-max or a 220 grain SMK is going about 1000-1050 fps, which is about the same speed as a 45 ACP with a similar weight bullet. It has the energy of about a 45 ACP in a rifle platform. I have a good friend of mine that several buddies dumped multiple rounds into a big boar at night with 208 A-max subs. One of the rounds still had the back end of the bullet level with the skin, and they could see the shine from the back of the bullet with the flash light. It was in the shield plate of the shoulder. Shot placement is critical with the subs.

A 208 at 1050 fps has 509 ft lbs of energy
A 125 grain going 2350 fps has 1532 ft lbs of energy.

The 125 going at full speed has exactly 3x times the energy as the 208 subsonic. Add to it that a typical bullet the sub speeds will not expand, and you can see the difference pretty quick.

I hunt with and have hunted with the blk out for the last 3-4 years with either a 115 Berger or a 125 SST or BT. The 115 and 125 bullets are VERY effective on game with good shot placement. Most of the critters I have shot were DRT, or dropped within 10-15 feet.


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Sure. The 115 grain Berger is their target bullet. The target bullets from Berger have the thicker jackets. So, these bullets most likely will not expand. Since they don't expand, they penetrate VERY well. Each animal I have shot with it has had about a quarter to all little larger exit hole. I've taken several deer, multiple coyotes, several small critters (crows, rabbits, raccoon, etc), and all went down DRT or very close. I wouldn't hesitate to use it for hunting. I do like the expansion of the 125 SST and BT, also. I've killed multiple deer now with the 125 SST and BT, and several pigs. I shoot the Rem 700 AAC version with the heavier barrel suppressed. It is my favorite rifle right now to shoot and hunt with. The guys in camp were kind of surprised when I show them this little 300 blk out round that I hunt with. I freakin' love the round, and it's a very shootable round. It is a round I don't mind popping anything with.


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