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 What Bolt-action Rifle(will be suppressed) for Deer?
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Give me some ideas for a new rifle for suppressed deer hunting. Not needed for long-range competition, just hunting.
Leaning toward a 16.5" bbl 700 SPS Rem in .308, + 8" can for total length 24.5". Rifle weighs about 8lbs, scope 17oz and can 11oz. Total close to 10lbs.
Alternative 6.5CM Tikka T3X CTR 20" bbl 7.5lbs, slightly less weight, 4" longer, no problem.
Want light as possible for stalking.
Other rifles?
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Re: What Bolt-action Rifle(will be suppressed) for Deer?
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11/20/16 02:37 PM
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I've thinking about doing the same thing in a Tikka lite 308. I'm thinking of cutting the barrel down to 16" and getting it threaded but I'm not sure if there's enough meat on the barrel to do it. I need to do some research!
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Re: What Bolt-action Rifle(will be suppressed) for Deer?
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11/20/16 02:39 PM
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Great choice! .308 subsonic with a can is very quiet!
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Re: What Bolt-action Rifle(will be suppressed) for Deer?
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11/20/16 02:47 PM
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Don't overlook the Ruger American Predator in 308 with the 18" barrel that is already threaded. Extremely good rifle for the money.
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Re: What Bolt-action Rifle(will be suppressed) for Deer?
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11/20/16 02:52 PM
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I've thinking about doing the same thing in a Tikka lite 308. I'm thinking of cutting the barrel down to 16" and getting it threaded but I'm not sure if there's enough meat on the barrel to do it. I need to do some research! Thanks, I have Tikka T3 lite in 6.5x55 - you're right, not enough meat, would have to cut to 6" - not an option.
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Re: What Bolt-action Rifle(will be suppressed) for Deer?
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11/20/16 02:53 PM
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Savage make the 10 in a .308 with prethreaded barrel. Ive got one, and it's pretty nice. Over sized bolt handle,pre mounted picattiny rail, accutrigger, and a more solid stock than the regular flimsy Tupperware stock. http://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/savage-10pt-sr-308-winchester-bolt-action-rifle
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Re: What Bolt-action Rifle(will be suppressed) for Deer?
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Don't overlook the Ruger American Predator in 308 with the 18" barrel that is already threaded. Extremely good rifle for the money. Thanks - will look that one up. Recoil ok on this one?
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Re: What Bolt-action Rifle(will be suppressed) for Deer?
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Don't overlook the Ruger American Predator in 308 with the 18" barrel that is already threaded. Extremely good rifle for the money. Thanks - will look that one up. Recoil ok on this one? The recoil is no more than any other gun in that weight range. But the BARK is obnoxious. Great candidate for a suppressor, imo.
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Re: What Bolt-action Rifle(will be suppressed) for Deer?
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11/20/16 03:33 PM
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Any of the above mentioned rifles will work fine. Go as short as you can on barrel length because you'll add 7-10" with the can. I've cut all of my hunting rifles to 16.25".
Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.
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Re: What Bolt-action Rifle(will be suppressed) for Deer?
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11/20/16 03:55 PM
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308 sps tac or 5 r and cut down
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Re: What Bolt-action Rifle(will be suppressed) for Deer?
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Any of the above mentioned rifles will work fine. Go as short as you can on barrel length because you'll add 7-10" with the can. I've cut all of my hunting rifles to 16.25". Have you Chronographed any loads with the 16.25" barrel? I'm curious to know the velocity loss between a 16" and 18" barrel.
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Re: What Bolt-action Rifle(will be suppressed) for Deer?
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I've thinking about doing the same thing in a Tikka lite 308. I'm thinking of cutting the barrel down to 16" and getting it threaded but I'm not sure if there's enough meat on the barrel to do it. I need to do some research! Thanks, I have Tikka T3 lite in 6.5x55 - you're right, not enough meat, would have to cut to 6" - not an option. Completely incorrect. I cut down a RH Tikka T-3 Lite (factory barrel) to 18", and threaded it 5/8"X24. That barrel has been replaced, since. Next project will be another T-3 Lefty, 7mm-08, 16" barrel threaded 5/8"X24, and I'm thinking 154 gr bullets. The goal is to make a light walking around gun. O.P. 6.5 Creedmoor, .260 Rem, 7mm-08, .308 will all make a fine rifle for whitetail and smaller. Barrel length loss, means velocity loss. Then you can tweak a load and bullet weights to achieve good energy delivery out of the short barrel. So if I were building a 25" long 7mm-08, I'd load it with 162 gr bullets, but since I'm going to chop it down, I'll drop bullet weight to regain some velocity, and probably up the energy delivery.
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Re: What Bolt-action Rifle(will be suppressed) for Deer?
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Any of the above mentioned rifles will work fine. Go as short as you can on barrel length because you'll add 7-10" with the can. I've cut all of my hunting rifles to 16.25". Have you Chronographed any loads with the 16.25" barrel? I'm curious to know the velocity loss between a 16" and 18" barrel. 30-50 fps MV going from 18" to 16" using the same powder. Then a change in powder burn rate could regain that velocity.
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Re: What Bolt-action Rifle(will be suppressed) for Deer?
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Any of the above mentioned rifles will work fine. Go as short as you can on barrel length because you'll add 7-10" with the can. I've cut all of my hunting rifles to 16.25". Have you Chronographed any loads with the 16.25" barrel? I'm curious to know the velocity loss between a 16" and 18" barrel. Just the 6.5 creedmoor. It gets 2715 without my suppressor with 120 grain A-max. Need to chrono it with the can.
Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.
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Re: What Bolt-action Rifle(will be suppressed) for Deer?
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Any of the above mentioned rifles will work fine. Go as short as you can on barrel length because you'll add 7-10" with the can. I've cut all of my hunting rifles to 16.25". Have you Chronographed any loads with the 16.25" barrel? I'm curious to know the velocity loss between a 16" and 18" barrel. 30-50 fps MV going from 18" to 16" using the same powder. Then a change in powder burn rate could regain that velocity. Thanks Fireman, I just bought a Tikka T3 Stainless in 7mm-08. I'm debating between a 18" or 16". I will always shoot it with a can so I'm not concerned about the bang. Regular shots on my deer lease are 200 yards and a 350 yard shot could happen. I just want enough velocity to take deer and coyotes. I'll probably shoot the 150 gr ELD-X.
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Re: What Bolt-action Rifle(will be suppressed) for Deer?
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Any of the above mentioned rifles will work fine. Go as short as you can on barrel length because you'll add 7-10" with the can. I've cut all of my hunting rifles to 16.25". Have you Chronographed any loads with the 16.25" barrel? I'm curious to know the velocity loss between a 16" and 18" barrel. Just the 6.5 creedmoor. It gets 2715 without my suppressor with 120 grain A-max. Need to chrono it with the can. Wow that's a lot better than I though. The 120 Amax is a great deer round. I wonder if the suppressor would add velocity?
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Re: What Bolt-action Rifle(will be suppressed) for Deer?
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Any of the above mentioned rifles will work fine. Go as short as you can on barrel length because you'll add 7-10" with the can. I've cut all of my hunting rifles to 16.25". Have you Chronographed any loads with the 16.25" barrel? I'm curious to know the velocity loss between a 16" and 18" barrel. 30-50 fps MV going from 18" to 16" using the same powder. Then a change in powder burn rate could regain that velocity. Thanks Fireman, I just bought a Tikka T3 Stainless in 7mm-08. I'm debating between a 18" or 16". I will always shoot it with a can so I'm not concerned about the bang. Regular shots on my deer lease are 200 yards and a 350 yard shot could happen. I just want enough velocity to take deer and coyotes. I'll probably shoot the 150 gr ELD-X. Excellent bullet choice, it's probably what I will use as well. 350 and in, and it'll kill whatever you want. And I know you can place the shot where it's supposed to go. 
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Re: What Bolt-action Rifle(will be suppressed) for Deer?
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I've thinking about doing the same thing in a Tikka lite 308. I'm thinking of cutting the barrel down to 16" and getting it threaded but I'm not sure if there's enough meat on the barrel to do it. I need to do some research! Thanks, I have Tikka T3 lite in 6.5x55 - you're right, not enough meat, would have to cut to 6" - not an option. Completely incorrect. I cut down a RH Tikka T-3 Lite (factory barrel) to 18", and threaded it 5/8"X24. That barrel has been replaced, since. Next project will be another T-3 Lefty, 7mm-08, 16" barrel threaded 5/8"X24, and I'm thinking 154 gr bullets. The goal is to make a light walking around gun. O.P. 6.5 Creedmoor, .260 Rem, 7mm-08, .308 will all make a fine rifle for whitetail and smaller. Barrel length loss, means velocity loss. Then you can tweak a load and bullet weights to achieve good energy delivery out of the short barrel. So if I were building a 25" long 7mm-08, I'd load it with 162 gr bullets, but since I'm going to chop it down, I'll drop bullet weight to regain some velocity, and probably up the energy delivery. Machinist said not enuf diameter for 5/8x24. Recommend someone that can do it?
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Re: What Bolt-action Rifle(will be suppressed) for Deer?
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@16" from the bolt face, the O.D. is .670"
5/8" is .625"
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Re: What Bolt-action Rifle(will be suppressed) for Deer?
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11/20/16 10:42 PM
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I've seen a lot of supressors lately on hunting rifles, is there an advantage to it besides just noise and blast reduction?
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Re: What Bolt-action Rifle(will be suppressed) for Deer?
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11/20/16 10:48 PM
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Recoil, noise, and blast reduction are the top benefits. To the OP, I bought a savage hog hunter for the asme purpose, 18 inch factory threaded barrel. Know several folk who got a ruger american and cut to 16 inches and are happy. Both pretty cheap options.
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Re: What Bolt-action Rifle(will be suppressed) for Deer?
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That's the only reason I use them. Shoot a coyote, stay put, shoot another. Same deer. I go on a doe hunt every January. This year I killed a doe, and 60 seconds later another popped into the field, and killed her.
Twice, with hog sounders, I suspect the sound bounces off the treeline behind them, and they have come closer to me.
Once I hunted suppressed I said I'd never hunt any other way again. (Barring carrying the 7 Rem Mag for mulies or elk)
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Re: What Bolt-action Rifle(will be suppressed) for Deer?
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I've never shot with one, but saw some videos of the impacts from the POV downrange and it was a pretty big difference.
I'll have to put in for one eventually.
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Re: What Bolt-action Rifle(will be suppressed) for Deer?
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I'm waiting on Trump to drop the red tape. And then I will have more.
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