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#6550864 - 11/19/16 06:01 PM Ruger MK IV
mikei Offline
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Have any of you had a chance to run one of these new offerings from Ruger? It's supposed to be a "one button" takedown and "snap close" reassembly. Having performed all kinds of acrobatics in trying to reassemble my MK II's and MK III's, I'd love me some easy process/routine on a Mark WHATEVER frame from Ruger!! Here's the URL to get to Ruger's overview and sales pitch:

http://www.ruger.com/products/markIV/overview.html

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#6551072 - 11/19/16 09:01 PM Re: Ruger MK IV [Re: mikei]
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I was at the local gun shop a couple of weeks ago when one came in. Pretty cool, they changed the safety, and slide stop/release, and the new takedown button is nice. Push the button and the top pivots off and then easily like clicks back on. So much better than the older ones.

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#6551088 - 11/19/16 09:30 PM Re: Ruger MK IV [Re: mikei]
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If they really have fixed the assembly/disassembly procedure, then that's a huge plus. All the old models will immediately be worth less. The engineers at Ruger when those were designed should have been fired.

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#6551147 - 11/19/16 10:33 PM Re: Ruger MK IV [Re: mikei]
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Yea they fixed it, it is much better. Only issue I seen was that the gun has to be on safe to disassemble, which could be a problem since once the button is depressed, it comes apart pretty easy. Could see it accidentally being depressed and the gun coming apart when you take it out of the holster, or possibly coming apart while riding an ATV, depending on holster style.

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#6551919 - 11/20/16 05:46 PM Re: Ruger MK IV [Re: patriot07]
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Originally Posted By: patriot07
If they really have fixed the assembly/disassembly procedure, then that's a huge plus. All the old models will immediately be worth less. The engineers at Ruger when those were designed should have been fired.


That's good, I'd like to buy one more Mk.II or two or three. I've seen some info on the new pistol and it sounds like Ruger's done well, but I find it odd that so many people can't reassemble the older pistols. Once you understand the mechanism it's a piece of cake.
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#6551936 - 11/20/16 05:57 PM Re: Ruger MK IV [Re: mikei]
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Love my MKIII Target, hate stripping it down and reassembling.

Sounds like a nice development.
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#6552436 - 11/21/16 04:52 AM Re: Ruger MK IV [Re: RiverRider]
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Originally Posted By: RiverRider
Originally Posted By: patriot07
If they really have fixed the assembly/disassembly procedure, then that's a huge plus. All the old models will immediately be worth less. The engineers at Ruger when those were designed should have been fired.


That's good, I'd like to buy one more Mk.II or two or three. I've seen some info on the new pistol and it sounds like Ruger's done well, but I find it odd that so many people can't reassemble the older pistols. Once you understand the mechanism it's a piece of cake.
I'm a mechanical engineer so maybe I'm especially sensitive to design issues.

I only got mine out 2-3 times a year when I had it. Not enough to ever memorize the sequence or "figure out" the mechanism. That's why you don't design stuff that way. People shouldn't have to "learn" something to use your product.

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#6552455 - 11/21/16 05:47 AM Re: Ruger MK IV [Re: RiverRider]
mikei Offline
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Originally Posted By: RiverRider
Originally Posted By: patriot07
If they really have fixed the assembly/disassembly procedure, then that's a huge plus. All the old models will immediately be worth less. The engineers at Ruger when those were designed should have been fired.


That's good, I'd like to buy one more Mk.II or two or three. I've seen some info on the new pistol and it sounds like Ruger's done well, but I find it odd that so many people can't reassemble the older pistols. Once you understand the mechanism it's a piece of cake.


It wasn't that I can't reassemble my II's and III's, it's that there is nothing intuitive about the process. Whenever I break them down for cleaning, I always go through the whole field stripping process 2 or 3 times, and by the end of the exercises they are a piece of cake. But I always seem to have to learn the process all over again, and with my other pistols that's not the case.

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#6552456 - 11/21/16 05:50 AM Re: Ruger MK IV [Re: mikei]
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It's as simple as understanding that the hammer has to be released and in the forward position so that you're not compressing the hammer spring when you try to latch the mainspring housing. It's in the manual. How much simpler does it have to be??
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#6552499 - 11/21/16 06:53 AM Re: Ruger MK IV [Re: mikei]
fray Offline
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#6552527 - 11/21/16 07:12 AM Re: Ruger MK IV [Re: mikei]
mikei Offline
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I got a lead on a MK IV for sale in San Antonio. I'm heading down there this morning to check it out, armed with a stack of 100 dollar bills!

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#6552539 - 11/21/16 07:22 AM Re: Ruger MK IV [Re: RiverRider]
mikei Offline
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Originally Posted By: RiverRider
It's as simple as understanding that the hammer has to be released and in the forward position so that you're not compressing the hammer spring when you try to latch the mainspring housing. It's in the manual. How much simpler does it have to be??


I guess I'm just an exceptionally slow learner. I never have been able to get one back together without a bit of a struggle on the first attempt.

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#6552603 - 11/21/16 08:14 AM Re: Ruger MK IV [Re: mikei]
TexasVine Offline
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Here's a solution for speed stripping the Mark III.

http://majesticarms.com/id10.html
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#6552708 - 11/21/16 09:23 AM Re: Ruger MK IV [Re: TexasVine]
mikei Offline
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Originally Posted By: TexasVine
Here's a solution for speed stripping the Mark III.

http://majesticarms.com/id10.html


Thanks, TexasVine!

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#6552739 - 11/21/16 09:51 AM Re: Ruger MK IV [Re: mikei]
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Originally Posted By: mikei
Originally Posted By: RiverRider
It's as simple as understanding that the hammer has to be released and in the forward position so that you're not compressing the hammer spring when you try to latch the mainspring housing. It's in the manual. How much simpler does it have to be??


I guess I'm just an exceptionally slow learner. I never have been able to get one back together without a bit of a struggle on the first attempt.



I'm not unsympathetic...I had to fiddle with mine and review the manual a number of times before it clicked for me, but once I reached the point of comprehension it all became dirt simple. Just a question of tenacity and persistence.
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