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#6548116 - 11/17/16 02:54 PM Berger 7mm VLD vs New 175 gr Elite Hunter
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I just saw that Berger has a new 175 gr Elite Hunter for the 7mm -- http://www.bergerbullets.com/new-berger-elite-hunter-offerings-now-available/



My load for 280AI with 168 VLDs over 58.8 gr of H4831sc is running right at 2900 fps out of a 1:9 25" pipe suppressed and shoots in the .2's if I do my part. Besides the higher BC and slight difference in grains, what advantage would I see running this 175gr -- ie, is it worth redoing load development for?
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#6548130 - 11/17/16 03:02 PM Re: Berger 7mm VLD vs New 175 gr Elite Hunter [Re: RedSnake]
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That's a pretty stout load for a 168 VLD in a 280 AI that's shooting very well already, so that's hard to beat. The question is, would an animal know the difference between a 168 VLD and a 175 EOL? Probably not. In real world terms, probably no difference. But I like tinkering with stuff, so I generally try a new bullet out and see what results I get. I like shooting, doing load work ups, and going to the range to play with loads. Berger has a bunch of new EOL's coming out. As well as Hornady does with the their line of ELD bullets.
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#6548131 - 11/17/16 03:04 PM Re: Berger 7mm VLD vs New 175 gr Elite Hunter [Re: RedSnake]
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Doubt you will notice any difference other than the bc. More grains = less velocity so I would count that as a negative. Currently shooting .2's... I wouldn't even look at it funny.
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#6548259 - 11/17/16 04:41 PM Re: Berger 7mm VLD vs New 175 gr Elite Hunter [Re: RedSnake]
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Does the EOL behave different than the VLD on impact? Do they go in and explode like the VLDs? I've been very impressed with the vlds so far -- hit like a sledgehammer! I haven't had one disappoint me yet -- axis buck at 375 yds DRT. Hog at 330 DRT. Doe at 250 DRT and last weekend we took two doe simultaneously at 400 yds both DRT.



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#6548267 - 11/17/16 04:44 PM Re: Berger 7mm VLD vs New 175 gr Elite Hunter [Re: RedSnake]
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Yes. I have heard the same results on the EOL and the VLD. Maybe even more carnage with the EOL, but we are pushing them fast out of 7 mags and 28 Nosler's. I have 2 customers that have taken game at long range with the 28 Nosler and 195 EOL. One at a lasered 1062 yards on a deer and a javalina at 780+ yards. Both DRT shots.
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#6548278 - 11/17/16 04:53 PM Re: Berger 7mm VLD vs New 175 gr Elite Hunter [Re: RedSnake]
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I guess I'll stick with what's working for the 280 and try out the heavies if/when I get Tony to screw together a Big 7 for me. JGs talk of the 7-300 has got me intrigued.
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#6548284 - 11/17/16 04:58 PM Re: Berger 7mm VLD vs New 175 gr Elite Hunter [Re: RedSnake]
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STOP MESSING WITH THAT 280 A.I. !!!!




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#6548295 - 11/17/16 05:04 PM Re: Berger 7mm VLD vs New 175 gr Elite Hunter [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
STOP MESSING WITH THAT 280 A.I. !!!!




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#6549065 - 11/18/16 08:22 AM Re: Berger 7mm VLD vs New 175 gr Elite Hunter [Re: RedSnake]
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Originally Posted By: RedSnake
JGs talk of the 7-300 has got me intrigued.


That's what I am having Tony build me now to push the 195's.
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