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 Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots?
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Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots?
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Umm, he shoots off a tripod...doesn't matter if it's an actual pistol let alone one of those contraptions
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Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots?
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He might hit something at 100 yards out of the short barrel, but it would be going so slow that it would be inhumane to shoot anything bigger than a rabbit with it.
Is there supposed to be some kind of point to what he is doing, there?
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Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots?
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I've seen a lot of stuff on YouTube that I wondered what the point was. I'm glad YouTube wasn't around when I was a teenager, no telling what I would have posted, that I would have regretted later.
I remember getting a lizard drunk on tequila once by feeding it with an eye dropper. The poor thing could only walk sideways until it sobered up.
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Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots?
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He said in the video that they were his reloads running 1000 fps in his short barrel. That is right in line with most sub speeds in a 16" barrel. He's tuned the ammo to run a little hotter in the short barrel. It's the same thing I did with my 208 A-max SBR ammo. I up'd the powder charge to have a faster speed in the SBR's. If you run normal sub ammo through a SBR, you do lose a lot of speed, reducing your energy. I've seen as low as 850 and 900 fps with normal subs for a 16" barrel running out of an SBR.
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Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots?
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He might hit something at 100 yards out of the short barrel, but it would be going so slow that it would be inhumane to shoot anything bigger than a rabbit with it.
Is there supposed to be some kind of point to what he is doing, there?
So you're saying a 30-30 isn't good for anything but rabbits? The 300BLK was developed with the purpose of shooting it from short barreled rifles. It wasn't developed and people adopted it like the 223REM where the powder doesn't burn effectively. Out of an 8" 300BLK you're getting around 2100 FPS with the 125's compared to the 30-30 which are running around 2200 FPS with the LeverEvolution out of a 16" barrel. So half the barrel length yet only 100FPS slower with almost same energy on target. I'd say a SBR 300BLK is capable of alot more than rabbits.. 
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Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots?
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Once my NFA stamp gets approved (check cashed 04/21/2016), this is my end game. As for just rabbits...lol. Our 50+ Ohio Coyotes won't stand a chance!
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Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots?
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Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots?
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This load is right at 1,000 fps in my 10.5" Odin Works Pistol barrel. Note the SD of 11.88 
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Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots?
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He might hit something at 100 yards out of the short barrel, but it would be going so slow that it would be inhumane to shoot anything bigger than a rabbit with it.
Is there supposed to be some kind of point to what he is doing, there?
Subsonics lose relatively little velocity over distance compared to supersonic projectiles. 
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Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots?
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I've seen a lot of stuff on YouTube that I wondered what the point was. I'm glad YouTube wasn't around when I was a teenager, no telling what I would have posted, that I would have regretted later.
I remember getting a lizard drunk on tequila once by feeding it with an eye dropper. The poor thing could only walk sideways until it sobered up. Video and pictures added to help you understand.
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Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots?
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Umm, he shoots off a tripod...doesn't matter if it's an actual pistol let alone one of those contraptions Indeed....I am a hunter first and foremost. 48 years ago when I started reading about shooting accurately. One thing I always remembered. If you can shoot kneeling...kneel. If you can shoot sitting....sit. If you can shoot prone......prone. Could I make these shots offhand at 100 yards...probably not consistently. My goal is to kill game...not win a prize or bragging rights.
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Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots?
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I've seen a lot of stuff on YouTube that I wondered what the point was. I'm glad YouTube wasn't around when I was a teenager, no telling what I would have posted, that I would have regretted later.
I remember getting a lizard drunk on tequila once by feeding it with an eye dropper. The poor thing could only walk sideways until it sobered up. Video and pictures added to help you understand. I was responding to Charlesb's post and having some fun. It was not aimed at you.
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Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots?
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The 300BLK was developed with the purpose of shooting it from short barreled rifles. It wasn't developed and people adopted it like the 223REM where the powder doesn't burn effectively. Out of an 8" 300BLK you're getting around 2100 FPS with the 125's compared to the 30-30 which are running around 2200 FPS with the LeverEvolution out of a 16" barrel.
So half the barrel length yet only 100FPS slower with almost same energy on target. I'd say a SBR 300BLK is capable of alot more than rabbits.. rolleyes
Well not quite, the Hornady is shooting a 160gr bullet. I am also skeptical of 2100 fps with a 125 out of an 8" barrel. I only get 2100 with the 110gr barnes in a 9". I love the 300BLK and own 3 rifles, but it doesn't kill as good as a 30-30 in my experience. I use my SBR for subsonics and i think that is where it shines.
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Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots?
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He might hit something at 100 yards out of the short barrel, but it would be going so slow that it would be inhumane to shoot anything bigger than a rabbit with it.
Is there supposed to be some kind of point to what he is doing, there?
Is this a joke?
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Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots?
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I've seen a lot of stuff on YouTube that I wondered what the point was. I'm glad YouTube wasn't around when I was a teenager, no telling what I would have posted, that I would have regretted later.
I remember getting a lizard drunk on tequila once by feeding it with an eye dropper. The poor thing could only walk sideways until it sobered up. Video and pictures added to help you understand. I was responding to Charlesb's post and having some fun. It was not aimed at you. No problem. btw....I would have loved to have seen that lizard!!
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That is more of a shooter question than a firearm.
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Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots?
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He might hit something at 100 yards out of the short barrel, but it would be going so slow that it would be inhumane to shoot anything bigger than a rabbit with it.
Is there supposed to be some kind of point to what he is doing, there?
Is this a joke? Nope. That's him. 
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Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots?
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He might hit something at 100 yards out of the short barrel, but it would be going so slow that it would be inhumane to shoot anything bigger than a rabbit with it.
Is there supposed to be some kind of point to what he is doing, there?
So you're saying a 30-30 isn't good for anything but rabbits? The 300BLK was developed with the purpose of shooting it from short barreled rifles. It wasn't developed and people adopted it like the 223REM where the powder doesn't burn effectively. Out of an 8" 300BLK you're getting around 2100 FPS with the 125's compared to the 30-30 which are running around 2200 FPS with the LeverEvolution out of a 16" barrel. So half the barrel length yet only 100FPS slower with almost same energy on target. I'd say a SBR 300BLK is capable of alot more than rabbits.. The BS is strong in this post. Lol
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Yeah, everyone knows physics is BS.
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Yeah, everyone knows physics is BS. Dude just ignored the fact that the bullet in the hornady load he quoted for the 30-30 is 35 grains (28%) heavier than the load he quoted for 300 BLK. He is trying to say the two calibers produce similar ballistics/speeds by comparing apples and oranges. Total BS. I know you love the opportunity to be a prick, so I'm just going to assume your nature got the best of you and you aren't really this dense.
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Yeah, everyone knows physics is BS. Dude just ignored the fact that the bullet in the hornady load he quoted for the 30-30 is 35 grains (28%) heavier than the load he quoted for 300 BLK. He is trying to say the two calibers produce similar ballistics/speeds by comparing apples and oranges. Total BS. I know you love the opportunity to be a prick, so I'm just going to assume your nature got the best of you and you aren't really this dense. Sorry misspoke, it was 110gr Barnes I was quoting at the 2100 in 8" barrel and the 110 vmax out of a 16" 30-30 runs around 2500 a little more. Was about 400fps off. Regardless, it will still kill way more than rabbits. I'd say many thousands of hogs and deer would beg the differ. There is your apples to apples. Not much of a difference and I'd much rather have an 8" barrel over a 16". No need to get you panties in a wad, it's damn forum.
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Well [censored] here we go again 
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I love it when people become experts on the 300 blackout from stuff they saw on the internet and feel the need to share (repeat) opinions they read online.
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