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#6547910 - 11/17/16 12:28 PM Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots?
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#6547951 - 11/17/16 12:55 PM Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots? [Re: Archersparadox2020]
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Umm, he shoots off a tripod...doesn't matter if it's an actual pistol let alone one of those contraptions

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#6547964 - 11/17/16 01:05 PM Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots? [Re: Archersparadox2020]
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He might hit something at 100 yards out of the short barrel, but it would be going so slow that it would be inhumane to shoot anything bigger than a rabbit with it.

Is there supposed to be some kind of point to what he is doing, there?


Edited by charlesb (11/17/16 01:10 PM)
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#6547989 - 11/17/16 01:22 PM Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots? [Re: Archersparadox2020]
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I've seen a lot of stuff on YouTube that I wondered what the point was. I'm glad YouTube wasn't around when I was a teenager, no telling what I would have posted, that I would have regretted later.

I remember getting a lizard drunk on tequila once by feeding it with an eye dropper. The poor thing could only walk sideways until it sobered up.
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#6547994 - 11/17/16 01:24 PM Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots? [Re: Archersparadox2020]
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He said in the video that they were his reloads running 1000 fps in his short barrel. That is right in line with most sub speeds in a 16" barrel. He's tuned the ammo to run a little hotter in the short barrel. It's the same thing I did with my 208 A-max SBR ammo. I up'd the powder charge to have a faster speed in the SBR's. If you run normal sub ammo through a SBR, you do lose a lot of speed, reducing your energy. I've seen as low as 850 and 900 fps with normal subs for a 16" barrel running out of an SBR.
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#6547997 - 11/17/16 01:26 PM Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots? [Re: charlesb]
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Originally Posted By: charlesb
He might hit something at 100 yards out of the short barrel, but it would be going so slow that it would be inhumane to shoot anything bigger than a rabbit with it.

Is there supposed to be some kind of point to what he is doing, there?


So you're saying a 30-30 isn't good for anything but rabbits?

The 300BLK was developed with the purpose of shooting it from short barreled rifles. It wasn't developed and people adopted it like the 223REM where the powder doesn't burn effectively. Out of an 8" 300BLK you're getting around 2100 FPS with the 125's compared to the 30-30 which are running around 2200 FPS with the LeverEvolution out of a 16" barrel.

So half the barrel length yet only 100FPS slower with almost same energy on target. I'd say a SBR 300BLK is capable of alot more than rabbits.. rolleyes
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#6548125 - 11/17/16 03:00 PM Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots? [Re: Archersparadox2020]
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Once my NFA stamp gets approved (check cashed 04/21/2016), this is my end game.

As for just rabbits...lol. Our 50+ Ohio Coyotes won't stand a chance!

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#6548135 - 11/17/16 03:07 PM Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots? [Re: Archersparadox2020]
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#6548148 - 11/17/16 03:22 PM Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots? [Re: Archersparadox2020]
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This load is right at 1,000 fps in my 10.5" Odin Works Pistol barrel.

Note the SD of 11.88




Edited by Archersparadox2020 (11/17/16 03:25 PM)
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#6548155 - 11/17/16 03:27 PM Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots? [Re: charlesb]
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Originally Posted By: charlesb
He might hit something at 100 yards out of the short barrel, but it would be going so slow that it would be inhumane to shoot anything bigger than a rabbit with it.

Is there supposed to be some kind of point to what he is doing, there?




Subsonics lose relatively little velocity over distance compared to supersonic projectiles.
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#6548164 - 11/17/16 03:34 PM Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots? [Re: booradley]
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Originally Posted By: booradley
I've seen a lot of stuff on YouTube that I wondered what the point was. I'm glad YouTube wasn't around when I was a teenager, no telling what I would have posted, that I would have regretted later.

I remember getting a lizard drunk on tequila once by feeding it with an eye dropper. The poor thing could only walk sideways until it sobered up.



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#6548175 - 11/17/16 03:40 PM Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots? [Re: Dien]
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Originally Posted By: Dien
Umm, he shoots off a tripod...doesn't matter if it's an actual pistol let alone one of those contraptions


Indeed....I am a hunter first and foremost. 48 years ago when I started reading about shooting accurately. One thing I always remembered.

If you can shoot kneeling...kneel.
If you can shoot sitting....sit.
If you can shoot prone......prone.

Could I make these shots offhand at 100 yards...probably not consistently.

My goal is to kill game...not win a prize or bragging rights.


Edited by Archersparadox2020 (11/17/16 03:41 PM)
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#6548304 - 11/17/16 05:11 PM Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots? [Re: Archersparadox2020]
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Originally Posted By: Archersparadox2020
Originally Posted By: booradley
I've seen a lot of stuff on YouTube that I wondered what the point was. I'm glad YouTube wasn't around when I was a teenager, no telling what I would have posted, that I would have regretted later.

I remember getting a lizard drunk on tequila once by feeding it with an eye dropper. The poor thing could only walk sideways until it sobered up.



Video and pictures added to help you understand.


I was responding to Charlesb's post and having some fun. It was not aimed at you.
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#6548343 - 11/17/16 05:38 PM Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots? [Re: Archersparadox2020]
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The 300BLK was developed with the purpose of shooting it from short barreled rifles. It wasn't developed and people adopted it like the 223REM where the powder doesn't burn effectively. Out of an 8" 300BLK you're getting around 2100 FPS with the 125's compared to the 30-30 which are running around 2200 FPS with the LeverEvolution out of a 16" barrel.

So half the barrel length yet only 100FPS slower with almost same energy on target. I'd say a SBR 300BLK is capable of alot more than rabbits.. rolleyes


Well not quite, the Hornady is shooting a 160gr bullet. I am also skeptical of 2100 fps with a 125 out of an 8" barrel. I only get 2100 with the 110gr barnes in a 9". I love the 300BLK and own 3 rifles, but it doesn't kill as good as a 30-30 in my experience. I use my SBR for subsonics and i think that is where it shines.


Edited by glocker17 (11/17/16 05:43 PM)

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#6548348 - 11/17/16 05:40 PM Re: Is the 300 Blackout in an AR Pistol configuration capable of accurate 100 yard shots? [Re: charlesb]
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Originally Posted By: charlesb
He might hit something at 100 yards out of the short barrel, but it would be going so slow that it would be inhumane to shoot anything bigger than a rabbit with it.

Is there supposed to be some kind of point to what he is doing, there?


Is this a joke?

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