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#6546798 - 11/16/16 04:33 PM 8 points shoot or not to shoot
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Registered: 08/31/16
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How old does a 8-point need to be before shooting?

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#6546810 - 11/16/16 04:39 PM Re: 8 points shoot or not to shoot [Re: EHR]
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Well like a lot of folks will say, the size of the trophy is in the eye of the beholder. My 2 or 3 year old 8 point that I will let walk maybe your or someone else best deer ever.... obviously the older they are 95% of the time the bigger they will be... I think I would for sure let the 1 -1/2 year old buck go...

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#6546822 - 11/16/16 04:43 PM Re: 8 points shoot or not to shoot [Re: EHR]
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Registered: 11/17/10
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Loc: Killeen/Ft Hood, TX
I'd try and wait until at least 3 1/2-4 1/2
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#6546827 - 11/16/16 04:45 PM Re: 8 points shoot or not to shoot [Re: EHR]
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It doesn't have to be any age, just 13 inches or larger inside spread.

Don't get caught up in the hype of only shooting 5-7 yo deer. Reality is, on small properties in most of texas, we will be lucky to see a 4 yo deer walking and many will be lucky to see 3 yo deer. I know a lot of people disagree with the sentence above, but hunting is meant for enjoyment and food procurement. If you get enjoyment shooting a 1.5 yo basket 8 pt (6 pt, 4 pt, whatever) as long as its legal, then go ahead. Don't let anyone internet bully you into thinking a deer has to be a certain age before being shot. Enjoy it!! Don't over think it!!

Where you hunt and how long you been hunting?

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#6546854 - 11/16/16 05:00 PM Re: 8 points shoot or not to shoot [Re: EHR]
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Light Foot

Registered: 08/31/16
Posts: 12
West Texas, hunted all my life, have not killed any deer in 3 years letting the place build itself back and dad had lease hunters, now have what I call 8ites, shooting 8 points at about 3 1/2 to 4, don't think they will be anything better.

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#6546869 - 11/16/16 05:11 PM Re: 8 points shoot or not to shoot [Re: EHR]
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Well good luck with everything. I assume you are a teenager or a young adult, just based on your post count only, but don't let this forum fool ya, there's lots of good info on here and lots of silly info on here.

One of the biggest myths we see on here is that anyone can grow a monster deer with good supplemental feeding and enough time. Isn't going to happen for most of us, and management on a small acreage place is almost always a waste of time if the folks around you don't believe in the same management plan.

Get ya some deer this year and shoot what makes you happy rifle

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#6546876 - 11/16/16 05:17 PM Re: 8 points shoot or not to shoot [Re: EHR]
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Light Foot

Registered: 08/31/16
Posts: 12
Well I'm 59 had the place going on 4yrs getting quite a few 10 points and better, just doing everything I can to make it the best it can be, getting more deer and better quality.

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#6546886 - 11/16/16 05:26 PM Re: 8 points shoot or not to shoot [Re: EHR]
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EHR, I hope I didn't offend you based on you being older than me, just assumed based on the low post count, bad assumption on my part.
Don't get me wrong, if you are the only hunter around you can very successfully manage a deer herd on small acreage, but with lots of hunters around (as is the case in most of texas, only way to manage is being super big or high fenced. I think I understand the point of your initial question now, being how old do you let 8pts get before you cut bait and shoot them for being nothing more than an 8?

That is a tough question to answer and depends more on your situation, as there are plenty of people who can show picks of 8 pts at 3-5 yo who turn into something special above 5 yo, but those deer are really rare, and in a highly managed herd.

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#6546894 - 11/16/16 05:31 PM Re: 8 points shoot or not to shoot [Re: EHR]
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Light Foot

Registered: 08/31/16
Posts: 12
Yep were on the same page, I'm lucky only have hunting pressure on one side, so management is doable, already have some great 8-points going to get some out of the way, by the grandkids.

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#6546906 - 11/16/16 05:46 PM Re: 8 points shoot or not to shoot [Re: EHR]
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Loc: Lubbock, TX
I've seen a lot of 8s get plenty bigger and put on more points at 5.5/6.5 versus 3.5-4.5. In fact, most of our bucks don't have more than 8 points until at least 4.5 and usually not until 5.5. They are still putting food into their bodies at 3.5/4.5; two years later their bodies are mature and more nutrients can go to the antlers. As you learn your herd and genetics you can get a feel for which ones may grow more and which may not. Also, food plays a huge role in their antler development. In a bad year, a 130" 10 may be a 110" 8.

We try to only harvest mature bucks. In the last 18 years, I have shot a couple of deer at 3.5 that I felt certain were not going to develop (one was a 70" 6pt, for example). We have harvested mature bucks that were 115" 8s, and 140" 12s. I saw two 8s last week that wouldn't break 125 but I feel both were probably 5.5. Those two should likely be removed but I like to hunt and didn't want to be bucked out that early, plus I didn't get the greatest age evaluation on either one.

I've gotten to the point I'd rather pass than be less than 100% happy with my deer. If he lives another year, so be it!
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#6547000 - 11/16/16 07:03 PM Re: 8 points shoot or not to shoot [Re: EHR]
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When you get to a point that you need to shoot off mature 8's, then you're doing something right. I prefer to let 'em grow and show me what they got.
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#6547383 - 11/17/16 05:36 AM Re: 8 points shoot or not to shoot [Re: EHR]
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Bird Dog

Registered: 10/05/15
Posts: 411
Loc: Texas
peep I too am your age, and find myself wondering the same thing. So much goes into the area you hunt, your neighbors, and genetics. But while I'd love to shoot a buck that had neck problems because his rack is so heavy he has a hard time holding his head up, I love to make and smoke sausage. grill For me, I see the butcher chart you see in the market when I see a deer, and if he is old enough and in good shape I try to fill my tag. However that is only secondary to the reason I crawl in my blind as the hunt is what it's all about for me. When I was a kid the lease my dad was on was in Cleo TX, and the landowner didn't want any does shot, but if you would shoot a spike he would give you a doe tag. But in the 60's they didn't know near as much about management as we do now. We were lucky to see any buck over 3 years old and if it weighed 95 pounds you had a monster. However with learning to hunt on that place as there would be 50-75 does every morning and evening at the feeder it was a great lesson on how deer react to different things. That is where I learned that I could let all of my gut noises go and not have any effect on the deer. To this day I still see if a "bowel growl" will get their attention just to amuse myself.I wish I had some good advice for you and your area, but without more details most every post you will get will be correct. Enjoy your time in the woods, and good luck! ninja
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#6547401 - 11/17/16 06:11 AM Re: 8 points shoot or not to shoot [Re: LandPirate]
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Originally Posted By: LandPirate
When you get to a point that you need to shoot off mature 8's, then you're doing something right. I prefer to let 'em grow and show me what they got.


You don't know what they will be until they hit 6+. I would rather shoot a 150 class 8 than a ten point scoring the same. up
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#6547487 - 11/17/16 07:31 AM Re: 8 points shoot or not to shoot [Re: Pitchfork Predator]
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Originally Posted By: Pitchfork Predator
Originally Posted By: LandPirate
When you get to a point that you need to shoot off mature 8's, then you're doing something right. I prefer to let 'em grow and show me what they got.


You don't know what they will be until they hit 6+. I would rather shoot a 150 class 8 than a ten point scoring the same. up




Man if more people would practice this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


If you just have to shoot something...shoot a Doe up
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#6547648 - 11/17/16 09:17 AM Re: 8 points shoot or not to shoot [Re: EHR]
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Loc: Conroe, TX
4.5 year old 8 is what we shoot. No sense in leaving 8's if you have 2.5-3.5 year old 10-12's running around.
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