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#6543876 - 11/14/16 08:11 PM Coyotes.....help me decide?
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Been deer hunting all last week, haven't yet seen a buck I wanted to shoot (yes I'm picky).

But every single time I've been out....I have had one or more Coyotes pass within 100 yds. of my stand (most about 75 yds. out).

This week I am going to take a second rifle with me to dispatch a few of them. I don't want to use my 7mm-08 (what I've been deer hunting with) because I just don't want to burn up my handloads on a Coyote.

So I am thinking about taking either my .17 HRM or my .458 SOCOM.

I haven't shot a coyote (yet) with the .17 HMR because I can't help but think it would be marginal in performance? Maybe I'm wrong?

I have shot Coyotes with the SOCOM using a 100 grain Lehigh bullet. It works really well BUT is incredibly loud.

What say you guys? Those two choices only...!

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#6543977 - 11/14/16 08:49 PM Re: Coyotes.....help me decide? [Re: flintknapper]
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#6544048 - 11/14/16 09:28 PM Re: Coyotes.....help me decide? [Re: flintknapper]
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Originally Posted By: flintknapper
I don't want to use my 7mm-08 (what I've been deer hunting with) because I just don't want to burn up my handloads on a Coyote.


I cannot understand this statement.
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#6544049 - 11/14/16 09:29 PM Re: Coyotes.....help me decide? [Re: flintknapper]
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I'd definitely use the 458

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#6544062 - 11/14/16 09:35 PM Re: Coyotes.....help me decide? [Re: flintknapper]
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I like the .17 but make the shot count!

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#6544066 - 11/14/16 09:36 PM Re: Coyotes.....help me decide? [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: flintknapper
I don't want to use my 7mm-08 (what I've been deer hunting with) because I just don't want to burn up my handloads on a Coyote.


I cannot understand this statement.


I'm having difficulties as well. 7mm-08 is excellent coyote medicine.
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#6544082 - 11/14/16 09:49 PM Re: Coyotes.....help me decide? [Re: flintknapper]
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Surely it's cheaper to shoot the 7mm08 over the 458. Plus why drag extra equipment along? If you had to, they are both loud. The 17hmr best case it hits it runs off 100 yards and dies there. I'd imagine a dead yote would probably ruin the hunt.

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#6544083 - 11/14/16 09:49 PM Re: Coyotes.....help me decide? [Re: flintknapper]
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What? You have only three handloads? confused2 grin
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#6544086 - 11/14/16 09:51 PM Re: Coyotes.....help me decide? [Re: flintknapper]
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I dropped a yote on a food plot two years ago. A half hour later two does came out, sniffed the yote laying there on the plot, then headed to the feeder. Deer do funny things.
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#6544096 - 11/14/16 09:56 PM Re: Coyotes.....help me decide? [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: flintknapper
I don't want to use my 7mm-08 (what I've been deer hunting with) because I just don't want to burn up my handloads on a Coyote.


I cannot understand this statement.


Maybe he doesn't enjoy handloading.

If that's the case, shoot em in the head with the .17
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#6544133 - 11/14/16 10:44 PM Re: Coyotes.....help me decide? [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: flintknapper
I don't want to use my 7mm-08 (what I've been deer hunting with) because I just don't want to burn up my handloads on a Coyote.


I cannot understand this statement.


Why?

I don't want to use a limited supply of my handloads on a Coyote. When I have time, I will load some more. I have tons of .17 HMR and plenty of 458, the question is simple, is the .17 enough to make a good ethical kill or should I go with the SOCOM.

It's not a question involving taking another rifle, that's easy to do, its not about whether or not the 7mm-08 is a good Coyote killer (it is...used it many times) but I don't want to use it right now. I have about 20 of my handloads left, they have been carefully crafted for accuracy and I don't want to waste them on Coyotes.

So, I've simply chosen to take another rifle in either of two calibers. I get conflicting reports on the effectiveness of the .17 on animals as large as Coyotes. I haven't shot anything larger than Raccoons and a bobcat with mine.

The SOCOM will definitely put Coyotes down and I have a lot of 100 grain ammo I need to burn up, but it is loud. The Coyotes will be targets of opportunity while I am out Deer Hunting. We just have way too many of them. I've been letting them pass by...not wanting to disturb my hunting area with a lot of noise, but they are coming through much too often.

Anyway, I am going to use one or the other, so I am soliciting any experience others might have with respect to the .17

I have my doubts about it.
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#6544217 - 11/15/16 06:43 AM Re: Coyotes.....help me decide? [Re: flintknapper]
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confused2 Whichever gun you take with you will be fine. If you have enough room in your blind, take all of them. Then depending on the shot, grab the gun that fits and hammer a coyote. Either way you will be enjoying the time in the woods. Or, just get a box of 7mm-08 ammo and keep it with you for coyotes and just have the 1 gun with you. Not sure how long it would take you to put one in the pipe, but it's just a thought..... 2cents
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#6544236 - 11/15/16 07:02 AM Re: Coyotes.....help me decide? [Re: flintknapper]
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Shoot 'em with the .17 and let them run wherever they choose to die. The farther away from your setup the better.

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#6544259 - 11/15/16 07:13 AM Re: Coyotes.....help me decide? [Re: flintknapper]
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Originally Posted By: flintknapper
.......the question is simple, is the .17 enough to make a good ethical kill.

I have my doubts about it.



Answer is simple .....NO.
And your doubts are correct.

We're handicapped to rimfire for much of our season here. I can tell you from experience that it is NOT a good choice. We sold our 17s and are hunting with the 22WMR. Way too many shake the 17 off and run for the hills.
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#6544265 - 11/15/16 07:15 AM Re: Coyotes.....help me decide? [Re: flintknapper]
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I'd lean towards the .17. Pop a pasture pup, let it run off with a mortal wound and keep on hunting deer.
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