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Re: What are the risks of feeding deer?
[Re: MoBettaHuntR]
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11/15/16 11:04 PM
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I think the price of ethanol would go down if Texas quit buying corn. Corns market value is 50% of what it was in 1960 how much lower you want it to go
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Re: What are the risks of feeding deer?
[Re: BrazosHunter]
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11/15/16 11:38 PM
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there is only two kinds of land, pasture what ever you want to call it, one that has hogs and ones that will get hogs, hogs travel, when its rainy, they root and destroy land regardless.
hold on Newt, we got a runaway
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Re: What are the risks of feeding deer?
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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11/16/16 12:48 AM
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NG, food plots are not possible or even practical in much of the state. Too many rocks, not enough rain, too much brush...the list goes on.
Mike Buda, Tx Hunt near Freer
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Re: What are the risks of feeding deer?
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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11/16/16 01:06 AM
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I quit using feeders two years ago - food plots only now. Big positive difference because the hogs are much less of a problem. Fencing the feeders with pens did zero good because my deer were very reluctant to jump in the pen and the hogs just rooted under anyway. I still hand corn some bowhunting and maybe for a specific deer. But if you don't think running corn feeders in east TX doesn't keep more hogs on your place you are mistaken.
Add in the cost, the work, etc. and it was something I should have done years ago. Food plots just work much better on my place without all the hassle. Simply put, east TX is just a different ball game compared to central/south TX.
Like many, I have never seen a big deer at a feeder, but they would check them for does during the "magic" time - but they do the same thing with the food plots. I have had mature deer visit the food plots and eat. Not regularly, but they will do it. Yes, feral hogs are just like cockroaches in many ways, the first being that the only good one is a dead one. And if you leave food out where either can find it, you're far more likely to have a problem with them.
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Re: What are the risks of feeding deer?
[Re: BrazosHunter]
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11/16/16 02:01 AM
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This is my first year not to buy protein feed or corn except to bait push in pens for hogs but I did buy $1200. worth of seed and fertilize. I usually catch enough hogs to pay the feed store bill for the covercrop and if your in a area that will grow covercrop put your money into as big a plot as you can. You won't have to worry about deer. They will be there. All my neighbors now claim I stole their deer. I plant around 15 acres, one field has 8 acres in it and this is my 5th year to plant and its got better every year.
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Re: What are the risks of feeding deer?
[Re: LandPirate]
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11/16/16 02:37 AM
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NG, food plots are not possible or even practical in much of the state. Too many rocks, not enough rain, too much brush...the list goes on. Yes. That's why I was careful to acknowledge the difference between east TX and the rest of the state. Couple of my neighbors have corn feeders and they shoot a lot. I know what they are shooting 90% of the time. Which is cool for both of us, as they love shooting hogs and I'm glad for them to have them and shoot them on their place. I really grew weary of the deer lifting their heads, vacating the territory and 2 minutes later a sounder of hogs coming in. Doesn't happen anymore.
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Re: What are the risks of feeding deer?
[Re: BrazosHunter]
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11/16/16 05:35 AM
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$300 in hog panels will do the same around a feeder and last a lifetime though. Just run a feeder or two with no panels to keep the hogs concentrated elsewhere. That's what we do. I would love food plots but we tried and never rained so nothing grew. $600 of seed gone plus all the fencing from cows. I am sure these past two years anything would have grown though. If I owned my place and had a tractor I would figure out a way.
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Re: What are the risks of feeding deer?
[Re: BrazosHunter]
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11/18/16 12:42 AM
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Thanks for all the great responses! It is good to know that many of you face the same challenges with hogs and deer around a feeder. The post about having to use feeders just to afford a lease caught me off guard but I completely understand. Hunting a small place does make it necessary to bring the deer to you since you may not be able to go to them.
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Re: What are the risks of feeding deer?
[Re: BrazosHunter]
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11/18/16 12:59 AM
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Those feeders bring in the doe. During the rut the bucks are going to be near the doe. They may feed at night but at least they are in the area...hopefully.
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Re: What are the risks of feeding deer?
[Re: BrazosHunter]
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11/18/16 01:20 AM
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This community has largely ended the cycle of deer overpopulation/starvation by using feeders. I don't mind spending money to improve the herd but it will suck for the deer if the practice is suddenly abandoned.
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Re: What are the risks of feeding deer?
[Re: BrazosHunter]
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11/18/16 04:22 PM
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I think food plots are the way to go if where you are hunting will support it. Lots of benefits to all the wildlife and the nutritional value is so much better than just corn alone. The last two seasons I spread rye grass and let nature do the rest and it grew pretty well. I need to fertilize what I've got started this year to see if that helps. I like the long term benefits of food plots verses seasonal feeding.
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Re: What are the risks of feeding deer?
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11/19/16 02:26 PM
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Hence why I would never hunt East Texas
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Re: What are the risks of feeding deer?
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12/01/16 12:09 AM
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I think that CWD issues are few and far between. Most of the problems are associated with High Fence Breeding operations. It keeps some of the folks at TP&W employed, so it is probably not a bad research project.
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