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Re: My dad shot his truck opening morning.
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11/08/16 09:26 PM
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I clearly remember the day when Dad shot Mom's car, while sighting in the rifle and resting it on the top. Scope view cleared the top, but the barrel didn't. Oh, the look on his face....
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Re: My dad shot his truck opening morning.
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11/08/16 09:36 PM
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Are his ears still ringing? What? HUH
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Re: My dad shot his truck opening morning.
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11/08/16 09:58 PM
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My boss shot the back door of my company car from inside years ago. He never told me that he had done it until after I got it fixed. He approved everything.
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Re: My dad shot his truck opening morning.
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11/08/16 10:12 PM
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Are his ears still ringing? What?
I believe in science and I’m an insufferable [censored] Actually, BBC is pretty damn good "You Cannot Simultaneously Be Politically Correct And Intellectually Honest!"
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Re: My dad shot his truck opening morning.
[Re: Chunky Monkey]
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11/08/16 11:00 PM
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The vast majority of ADs are the result of human error. They are only funny with hindsight because there wasn't a person in front of the barrel when the weapon discharged.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: My dad shot his truck opening morning.
[Re: Chunky Monkey]
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11/08/16 11:18 PM
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Don't read magazines when loading your gun
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Re: My dad shot his truck opening morning.
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11/08/16 11:35 PM
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Was it a Ford, chevy or Dodge? Might have been a justifiable shooting.
All kidding aside, glad no one was hurt! Nice. Very glad no one was hurt.
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Re: My dad shot his truck opening morning.
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11/08/16 11:58 PM
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Re: My dad shot his truck opening morning.
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11/09/16 12:33 AM
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"The vast majority of ADs are the result of human error. They are only funny with hindsight because there wasn't a person in front of the barrel when the weapon discharged." Uhhhh That's why it's called an Accidental Discharge
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Re: My dad shot his truck opening morning.
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11/09/16 01:36 AM
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I had my first AD on Sunday -- and in a box blind. I fired at a buck under the feeder. I believe in not "admiring the shot" so I quickly reloaded. As I brought my hand off the bolt handle, my longest finger snagged the trigger and "kaboom"! Ouch.......
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Re: My dad shot his truck opening morning.
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11/09/16 02:05 AM
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"The vast majority of ADs are the result of human error. They are only funny with hindsight because there wasn't a person in front of the barrel when the weapon discharged." Uhhhh That's why it's called an Accidental Discharge Both human and mechanical error caused unintended discharges are accidental. What are you laughing about? I know you had to post because it's me, but you have no point.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: My dad shot his truck opening morning.
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11/09/16 02:09 AM
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Not laughing at a Accidental Discharge...
Should have never been one in the Pipe.
Calm down little buddy.
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Re: My dad shot his truck opening morning.
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11/09/16 02:44 AM
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Speaking of the result of an "accidental discharge" ......never mind....I'd be banned.....carry on......
I believe in science and I’m an insufferable [censored] Actually, BBC is pretty damn good "You Cannot Simultaneously Be Politically Correct And Intellectually Honest!"
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Re: My dad shot his truck opening morning.
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11/09/16 02:52 AM
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I will get all the details on the rifle make and get some pics but he was getting ready to go out hunting and he chambered a round and then pushed the clip in and it fired. Don't know if the safety was off or anything but I will get the details to provide you with everything that I can. Most important is that everyone was ok but that is the 2nd truck he has shot in 10 years. Last time he leaned against the bed of his truck to shoot a turkey and blew a hole in the other side of the bed. Maybe older folks need to take hunter safety education TOO!
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Re: My dad shot his truck opening morning.
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11/09/16 03:27 AM
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Glad he (and anyone else) is ok.....good reminder.... X2 could have been bad. Walter
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Re: My dad shot his truck opening morning.
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11/09/16 05:04 AM
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IMO, some guys just get a rush from carrying a loaded firearm, even when there's little chance it will be needed.
Another problem with waiting until you get back to your vehicle or camp, is the likelihood of some distraction causing you to forget to unload it. Like the case of a Houston man who shot and accidentally killed himself while removing his shotgun from its case before going to shoot skeet. He had left the gun loaded since hunting season, which ended several months earlier.
"Some people will never like you because your spirit irritates their demons."
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Re: My dad shot his truck opening morning.
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11/09/16 08:29 AM
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More shooting related accidents happen when hunters are around vehicles, than when they are in the woods hunting.
Not once have I heard of a hunter accidentally shooting their deer stand. Vehicles, transmissions, and engine blocks are another matter. Well, if nobody is around and you do manage to shoot your stand, who is going to know but you? You don't have to fill out insurance, call a wrecker, or tell your spouse about it. We know NDs happen in stands as people sometimes get injured or killed as a result. These are documented.
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Re: My dad shot his truck opening morning.
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11/09/16 11:31 AM
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More shooting related accidents happen when hunters are around vehicles, than when they are in the woods hunting.
Not once have I heard of a hunter accidentally shooting their deer stand. Vehicles, transmissions, and engine blocks are another matter. Well, if nobody is around and you do manage to shoot your stand, who is going to know but you? You don't have to fill out insurance, call a wrecker, or tell your spouse about it. We know NDs happen in stands as people sometimes get injured or killed as a result. These are documented. True. Still, if you spend a few minutes reviewing the opening summaries of the TPWD Hunting Accident Reports, which are available from the TPWD website, you will see many years when most accidents happened around vehicles, rather than in the woods.
"Some people will never like you because your spirit irritates their demons."
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Re: My dad shot his truck opening morning.
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11/09/16 11:47 AM
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Ouch.... I can't tell you how many times I've flipped the safety to shoot and the chamber was empty. I've a big habit of not loading my gun until I'm in the blind. But it has never cost me a deer, as I've managed to put one in the pipe and shoot. Every time it has happened I will laugh at myself for forgetting, but since I hunt alone most of the time I'm extra safe. I'm glad nobody was injured and hopefully a lesson learned for everyone.
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Re: My dad shot his truck opening morning.
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11/09/16 03:12 PM
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NO No No!!! It's NEVER an AD!!! It's a freakin ND- Negligent Discharge!!!! An accident is an unplanned, by chance event. A firearm going off unintentional is ALWAYS an ND. As working shooting comps and being around firearms, if a gun goes off unplanned, 99.9% of them are from a finger or something touching the trigger causing it to go off when a round is in the chamber. That is the negligence of the shooter/handler of the firearm, which is an ND.
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Re: My dad shot his truck opening morning.
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11/09/16 05:22 PM
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More shooting related accidents happen when hunters are around vehicles, than when they are in the woods hunting.
Not once have I heard of a hunter accidentally shooting their deer stand. Vehicles, transmissions, and engine blocks are another matter. Well, if nobody is around and you do manage to shoot your stand, who is going to know but you? You don't have to fill out insurance, call a wrecker, or tell your spouse about it. We know NDs happen in stands as people sometimes get injured or killed as a result. These are documented. True. Still, if you spend a few minutes reviewing the opening summaries of the TPWD Hunting Accident Reports, which are available from the TPWD website, you will see many years when most accidents happened around vehicles, rather than in the woods. I have done that. I know the data. If you take a closer look, I believe you will find a lot, if not most of those vehicle-related incidents to be intentional discharges with unintended consequences. I have also spoken with numerous hunters and been with hunters (2) when NDs occurred...none of which were ever reported. Why? Nobody was shot and no insurance claims needed to be filed. What you will notice of the TPWD reports and IHEA reports is that most of the reports only pertain to when injury or death resulted, or when a warden/leo needed to be summoned. MOST NDs happen with no injuries or death and do not necessitate the need for any sort of report filing. So Billy Joe Bob shoots a hole in the top of his plywood box blind. You aren't apt to hear about it. BJB is just going to get some duct tape or a piece of wood, patch the hole, and that will be the end of that. Little Jimmy is squirrel hunting, trips and discharges his .22 into the ground. Nobody will hear about that. Allison props her cocked and unlocked rifle across the antlers of a deer when it slides off and discharges into the woods, hitting a tree. Won't hear about that. What you are talking about is a significant sampling bias, not necessarily a reality of when NDs occur. And as Chad pointed out, these are most commonly NDs and not ADs. Gotta agree with that 100%. It may be an accident in that it was unplanned, but if an unintentional discharge occurred due to negligence on the part of the operator, then it is an ND. ADs, such as with the defective Walker trigger system of the Rem 700 rifle system, are much more rare.
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Re: My dad shot his truck opening morning.
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11/09/16 05:22 PM
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accidental discharge, whoops
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Re: My dad shot his truck opening morning.
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11/09/16 05:41 PM
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More shooting related accidents happen when hunters are around vehicles, than when they are in the woods hunting.
Not once have I heard of a hunter accidentally shooting their deer stand. Vehicles, transmissions, and engine blocks are another matter. Well, if nobody is around and you do manage to shoot your stand, who is going to know but you? You don't have to fill out insurance, call a wrecker, or tell your spouse about it. We know NDs happen in stands as people sometimes get injured or killed as a result. These are documented. True. Still, if you spend a few minutes reviewing the opening summaries of the TPWD Hunting Accident Reports, which are available from the TPWD website, you will see many years when most accidents happened around vehicles, rather than in the woods. I have done that. I know the data. If you take a closer look, I believe you will find a lot, if not most of those vehicle-related incidents to be intentional discharges with unintended consequences. I have also spoken with numerous hunters and been with hunters (2) when NDs occurred...none of which were ever reported. Why? Nobody was shot and no insurance claims needed to be filed. What you will notice of the TPWD reports and IHEA reports is that most of the reports only pertain to when injury or death resulted, or when a warden/leo needed to be summoned. MOST NDs happen with no injuries or death and do not necessitate the need for any sort of report filing. So Billy Joe Bob shoots a hole in the top of his plywood box blind. You aren't apt to hear about it. BJB is just going to get some duct tape or a piece of wood, patch the hole, and that will be the end of that. Little Jimmy is squirrel hunting, trips and discharges his .22 into the ground. Nobody will hear about that. Allison props her cocked and unlocked rifle across the antlers of a deer when it slides off and discharges into the woods, hitting a tree. Won't hear about that. What you are talking about is a significant sampling bias, not necessarily a reality of when NDs occur. And as Chad pointed out, these are most commonly NDs and not ADs. Gotta agree with that 100%. It may be an accident in that it was unplanned, but if an unintentional discharge occurred due to negligence on the part of the operator, then it is an ND. ADs, such as with the defective Walker trigger system of the Rem 700 rifle system, are much more rare. There is no denying the fact that if every hunter made it their practice to wait until they are settled in their stand before loading their firearm, and likewise, made sure to unload it as a "first step" before leaving, the number of shooting-related hunting accidents would drop significantly.
"Some people will never like you because your spirit irritates their demons."
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Re: My dad shot his truck opening morning.
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11/09/16 05:52 PM
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Ok this just kills me. Why would you wait until you get to where you are hunting to load your weapon. I walk 1/4 mile to my blind. I have seen deer between my truck and blind, hogs too. What good is an unloaded rifle in the field. I call it a club. My son and I park, get our stuff out, load our rifles and start walking. When we go home, reverse that. Sorry for the hijack. Oh yeah, I live in a two truck county with no AR's.
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Re: My dad shot his truck opening morning.
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11/09/16 07:28 PM
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Ouch.... I can't tell you how many times I've flipped the safety to shoot and the chamber was empty. I've a big habit of not loading my gun until I'm in the blind. But it has never cost me a deer, as I've managed to put one in the pipe and shoot. Every time it has happened I will laugh at myself for forgetting, but since I hunt alone most of the time I'm extra safe. I'm glad nobody was injured and hopefully a lesson learned for everyone. The loudest sound in the world..... CLICK
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