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Re: Spike down
[Re: Aggieman775]
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11/08/16 03:08 PM
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Are spikes even all that common? I have been hunting 11 years and have only seen 4 Three were seen by me and a friend opening morning in Houston County. My friend took one of the two that he saw, and would have taken the other had I not reminded him he could not shoot another buck if he did. The one that I saw could have had forked antlers so I held off. It was still getting daylight at the time.
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Re: Spike down
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11/08/16 03:20 PM
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Are spikes even all that common? I have been hunting 11 years and have only seen 4 Three were seen by me and a friend opening morning in Houston County. My friend took one of the two that he saw, and would have taken the other had I not reminded him he could not shoot another buck if he did. The one that I saw could have had forked antlers so I held off. It was still getting daylight at the time. I am in camp county. I have seen one this year I could not get a shot on. That was the first one I have seen in a couple years.
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Re: Spike down
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11/08/16 06:20 PM
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For us they are just numbers. If we are in good shape on deer density then we wouldn't worry about shooting them. If we need to thin out some numbers then they are usually easier to harvest and allow you to leave behind the best of your young and middle aged deer. This year we have seen a handful of them and will likely try to shoot at least a few of them. Deer numbers seem strong this year, and though the deer look in good condition, the range dried up some here the last couple months and the deer you can tell are getting hungrier. will be good to take some mouths off the range before harder winter and rut set in.
we've also killed 16 hogs in the last two months. I would imagine a pseudo adult hog would consume as much as a deer would. but I don't know. Anyone have any information on that?
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Re: Spike down
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11/08/16 08:25 PM
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Why would you want to get rid of a 1 year old buck? Just to answer your question, because we have had many cases of letting 1 year old spikes go and not removing them only to see them become the same thing year after year. I believe it is important to remove these bucks from the gene pool so that we may see quality bucks in the future and less inferior bucks, like a spike. Although it isn't much meat being so young, it's better to have them removed than to see them reproduce.
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Re: Spike down
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11/08/16 08:29 PM
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Are you saying that the spike would grow spikes again next year? or he had a statistically higher percentage chance of growing an inferior rack when compared to his branched antler counterparts?
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Re: Spike down
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11/08/16 08:31 PM
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In the big scheme of things I don't think your changing the genetics on a low fence property at all and unless its an extensive culling program probably not much on a HF property either. What you do accomplish is removing a mouth from the range that feeds the rest of the deer.
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Re: Spike down
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11/08/16 08:39 PM
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I'm not saying that it will change the entire genetics of every deer out there. All I'm saying is that when you have a lesser population of inferior bucks, the less likely it is that you will see more.
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Re: Spike down
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11/08/16 09:28 PM
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Are spikes even all that common? I have been hunting 11 years and have only seen 4 Wow you should try looking harder. ONE spike in 30k plus game camera pictures from last year to present. Some people just don't have that many
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Re: Spike down
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11/08/16 09:36 PM
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I bet a lot more have them than don't.
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Re: Spike down
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11/08/16 09:49 PM
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Good shot and Congrats!
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Re: Spike down
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11/08/16 09:58 PM
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I saw three spikes Saturday morning. Finally got a neighbor to cull does last year. They took around 20, and another neighbor hammered does too. I suspect the spikes I saw were mainly a result of losing momma so early in life. 2 of the 3 were very small, like dress 45-50 lbs small, leading me to believe they were young and/or stunted. Sunday morning I saw three forkhorns, and all our deer are fat, so I know it's not food.
If you need to remove mouths, you might as well use the spike tag in an AR county if you have other young bucks that are ahead of the curve. I typically prefer to shoot does, because that removes future mouths too, but we do as much as we can.
Can spikes become big deer? Sure, but under average conditions they'll almost always be behind their classmates. If you need to take them, take them, if you have the luxury and you think they're aren't genetically inferior, leave 'em and see what happens.
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Re: Spike down
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11/08/16 10:03 PM
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My brothers wife shot a yearling spike Saturday evening. It weight 100 lbs live and 80 dressed. South texas, and we haven't had much of any rain since spring.
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