I've had this conversation before and people are stuborn. Most I've talked to are in the "I'm not a biologist so if there's an exotic on my place, shame on it" mindset. I tell them their mindset will change when they're slapped with a fine for shooting a CITES animal.

I've had this conversation before and people are stuborn. Most I've talked to are in the "I'm not a biologist so if there's an exotic on my place, shame on it" mindset. I tell them their mindset will change when they're slapped with a fine for shooting a CITES animal.

How do you know?
What is the difference in an exotic that escaped a high fence and one that has been living "wild".

The TPWD documents don't seem to differentiate. They only say that as long as the landowner where the animal is present gives permission then it is legal.

What am I missing??

Point is, if you don't know what you're shooting at, don't shoot it.

I don't know if marking requirements applies to CITES also, but killing exotics that are properly identified by the owner aint no cake walk either.

Ag code
Title 6
Sub title B
Chapter 142

Sec. 142.0021 OWNERSHIP OF EXOTIC WILDLIFE AND FOWL. A person may claim to be the owner of exotic livestock or exotic fowl under this chapter only if the animal is tagged, branded, banded, or marked in another conspicuous manner that can be read or identified from a long distance and that identifies the animal as being the property of the claimant.

We aren't talking about ownership or permission. We're talking about shooting a federally protected animal.

4 yrs old but...
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/apr/03/nation/la-na-nn-texas-hunting-antelope-20120403
http://www.texas-wildlife.org/images/uploads/Final_Rule_for_Addax,_Dama_Gazelle,_and_Scimitar-Horned_Oryx.pdf

That is a different scenario. Those are breeders selling the hunts of endangered species. Texas law allows non-indigenous species to be taken at landowners discretion. At least from what I can find in TPWD sites.

If the species is endangered it don't matter where that species lives, it is still endangered no matter what the scenario is. Test the law if you are so inclined to prove your point.

The "white deer" thread brought up an important subject all hunters need to be aware of.

It is common assumption that unmarked exotics are fair game to kill without restriction in Texas. That isn't true at all if you are talking about animals under the federally administrated CITES program.

For example, if one of my CITES regulated animals got out last spring through a water gap onto my neighbors ranch and he or one of his leasers killed it they would be liable for a felony if they didn't first obtain a CITES permit.

Since there are many areas in Texas that had water gaps wash out this year it would be prudent for hunters to know a tad more than "it's a white exotic" before pulling the trigger on an animal.

Elds deer, Arabian oryx, barashinga, red lechwe, are just some exotics that covered under the program. Most taxidermists and processors will know and ask for the permit if you bring one in. And by then it's wayyyy too late.

Just an FYI.

Why don't you name all species and post some pictures of each if you wish to educate us?

Anyone know of a comprehensive list of animals that are protected?

That is a different scenario. Those are breeders selling the hunts of endangered species. Texas law allows non-indigenous species to be taken at landowners discretion. At least from what I can find in TPWD sites.

Those three species got de-listed thanks to a joint effort from EWA and SCI. But yes, for a couple of years "friends of animals" got those three listed under cites.

And pegasaurus you are wrong. But I won't waste time arguing with you.

For those wanting a comprehensive list, I don't have a condensed version. I think for hunters sake it would be good to look at game species only, but if that list exists I haven't seen it.

What am I wrong about? The TPWD Outdoor Annual states that about non indigenous species as well as other publications on their site.
I am not trying to argue, I am trying to understand and learn. So, if you are so knowledgeable then please share and educate me. I am not talkIng about what Pappy or Uncle Elmer might have told you at deer camp but documentation or publication that can be read and understood.

Actually, I think Dama, Scimitar, and Addax were ALWAYS on the CITIES list - it was just that they were granted an exemption for many years. The FOA folks got the exemption repealed for a couple of years - but now the exemption is back in place.

Funny though - when the drought was on and there were deals, four of us went on a Scimitar hunt. Three of us took oryx, but I don't remember getting any paperwork for them - and the taxidermists that did them never asked.