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#6516775 - 10/28/16 09:24 PM New Hornady ELDs
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This should make folks happy.

http://m.hornady.com/store/ELD-Match-New
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#6516820 - 10/28/16 10:06 PM Re: New Hornady ELDs [Re: scottfromdallas]
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Interesting. I was comparing the cutaway drawings, and the ELD Match looks as though it has a much thinner jacket than the ELD-X.
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#6516837 - 10/28/16 10:25 PM Re: New Hornady ELDs [Re: scottfromdallas]
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Is this the same bullet they announced with the x

Eld for target
Eld x for hunting

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#6516932 - 10/29/16 12:30 AM Re: New Hornady ELDs [Re: scottfromdallas]
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The match go through more Q/A than the X's

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#6516990 - 10/29/16 06:34 AM Re: New Hornady ELDs [Re: scottfromdallas]
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Interesting...so how many of you guys have used them? Is the performance that much better than the a-max?

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#6517125 - 10/29/16 09:11 AM Re: New Hornady ELDs [Re: Deerhunter61]
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Originally Posted By: Deerhunter61
Interesting...so how many of you guys have used them? Is the performance that much better than the a-max?


As far as shooting, I noticed a slight better performance. I had a customer bring out a 6.5 Creedmoor and two types of Hornady ammo, one loaded with 140 A-Max, one loaded with 140 ELD-M. We got DOPE on the A-Max, then used that for the ELD-M. If memory serves the ELD-M needs .1 Mil less elevation 500, 600, 700, and .2 less at 800 yards.

ELD-X think "expand". As far as I understand, that's the designation of the "X".
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#6517129 - 10/29/16 09:12 AM Re: New Hornady ELDs [Re: RiverRider]
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Originally Posted By: RiverRider
Interesting. I was comparing the cutaway drawings, and the ELD Match looks as though it has a much thinner jacket than the ELD-X.


Interesting. That's the exact opposite of Berger VLD-Target, and VLD-Hunting.
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#6517170 - 10/29/16 09:46 AM Re: New Hornady ELDs [Re: scottfromdallas]
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Jacket thickness also goes hand in hand with jacket composition. Just something else to think about .....
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#6517187 - 10/29/16 10:06 AM Re: New Hornady ELDs [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: RiverRider
Interesting. I was comparing the cutaway drawings, and the ELD Match looks as though it has a much thinner jacket than the ELD-X.


Interesting. That's the exact opposite of Berger VLD-Target, and VLD-Hunting.


Exactly what I was thinking when I saw it. So Hornady is using a very thin jacket in their match offering and Berger developed theirs with a thick jacket. It would be interesting to contrast the rationale each designer used when these were conceived.
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#6517309 - 10/29/16 12:35 PM Re: New Hornady ELDs [Re: RiverRider]
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Reckon the alloy blend of each bullet jacket is different?
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#6517377 - 10/29/16 01:43 PM Re: New Hornady ELDs [Re: scottfromdallas]
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I'm sure the tip impacts the decision. Bergers have a pin hole HP so it probably needs a thin jacket to ensure expansion. The ELD has a massive hollow point with a tip for explosive expansion and probably needs a thicker jacket to control it. Berger promotes their hunting bullets to penetrate 2-3 inches prior to expansion and then it fragments like a grenade inside the animal. Hornady is promoting continuous controlled expansion at all ranges with the ELDX.
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#6517380 - 10/29/16 01:45 PM Re: New Hornady ELDs [Re: scottfromdallas]
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^^quite plausible^^

Berger touts their heavy jacket target bullets for repeated fire, on a hot barrel. I've tested that theory, it works. wink
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#6517426 - 10/29/16 02:31 PM Re: New Hornady ELDs [Re: scottfromdallas]
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So, why DOES that work??
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#6517726 - 10/29/16 07:43 PM Re: New Hornady ELDs [Re: RiverRider]
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I don't know, I've never had any trouble out of A-Maxes on repeated fire. Can't recall repeated fire on a VLD-Hunting, though.
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#6517746 - 10/29/16 08:03 PM Re: New Hornady ELDs [Re: scottfromdallas]
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Okay, then...roflmao

What DOESN'T work in that scenario?? I always figured the rifle had a lot more to do with this than anything else.
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