I would like to invite 4-8 shooters out to a range in Wolfe City, TX who sight their rifles in by MPBR (maximum point blank range) and/or by X.X" inches high at 100 yards. Call this a scientific study. This isn't a "my rifle is more accurate that yours" thing. What I would like to see is, of the shooters who sight their rifle in by MPBR and/or X.X inches high at 100 yards, what the difference is in the perceived drop vs. the actual drop of their bullets and the point of impact at each distance. I would like to see what the hunter thinks is their hold or bullet drop vs. what the actual bullet drop is at 100, 200 and 300 yards. I would like to have paper at 100, 200 and 300 yards, and I will have a Lab Radar chronograph getting velocity readings on all shots. I will provide the Shoot N C targets as the targets.

Thursday, Nov 3 about 9 am is the date (or lets plan another date), but it needs to be during the week, since we will be hunting on the weekends. Let's do this! Comment below if you can come. Oh, and beer will be consumed after (BYOB, of course).

Pretty cool of you and the fireman, Chad.

Very large target boards covered in white paper, to find misses. Point of aim will be a neon orange 12" circle, size of vitals (or larger by some people's standards) bullet holes will be recorded.

Bring a rifle you hunt with, no limitation on caliber or velocity.

This sounds like lots of fun (shooting always is IMO), but I have to ask (NOT being argumentative here).....

What is your purpose for this event?

1. So an MPBR shooter can be certain of his drops at known distance?
2. For precision shooters to extol the virtues of precision turrets for EXACT POI, as an "I told you so" moment?

Just curious. It's much too far for me to drive anyway.

It's just a scientific study, and in no way is to belittle anyone. There's no point in a Mil or MOA guy shooting in this. And myself and Chad will only shoot if someone wants to see the results of how we do it. If no one asks for it, we'll never fire a round, and won't talk any smack about everyone's ways. If there's a miss, it will be recorded, and made available to the guy that missed. Simple as that.

Sounds great, but MPBR hits at 100,200, and 300 would take about 30 minutes at the local range, wouldn't it? It is a great option though for someone who lives closer to tap into your experience, in the field, which is invaluable.

I'd love to do this guys, but Nov 3rd is a no go for me my boss will be out all week and I have to be here when he isn't in case of computer problems. The next week I could take a day off and come out.

I would like to compare the results of the before predictions of bullet drop and impacts at each distance, and compare the actual results after shooting.

Predictions? Do you honestly see lots of people who just grab some ammo, sight in, then hunt without any verification whatsoever?

All the freakin' time!!!!!!!!!!

I suspect this is what most hunters do.

I wont be making it, yal are a long way of... and I don't use MPBR either.

I think it would be a good idea for chad or Firemanjg to do the shooting with some average jo ammo ex: 130 grain rem corlocks, 150-165 grain 308 etc... factory loads and see if they live up to the theory of MPBR.

Why one of us shoot it?

I sight my 30/30 about an 1.5 inches high at 100. I would never try a 300 yard shot with my 30-30 on a deer, but I'd love to come play! I also just mounted a Nikon BDC scope on my .223. Curious to see how well that works out past 100.

Bring the BDC. I'll record what was correct, and what wasn't.

This pretty well sums up 80% of the Texas "deer hunters" I come across, if not more.

I don't understand the point. Couldn't you two do the same thing with a couple of rifles in a few hours? Sounds like it will be exactly what y'all are claiming it won't be an "we're right, you're wrong" experience.

Unbelievable.

Show up then. I can assure you, it will be friendly.

I'm a probably for that Thursday. I have a new 6.8 I would like to know what it do

What I mean is. If you want scientific results; you should use one rifle and one shooter then apply the different methods.
I'm too far and don't use high at 100 or MPBR. Also, Chad stole from me and we don't get along.

I'm gonna sight on one of my rifle high at 100 just to get a free range day

"Come out and see how wrong you are day!"

I'm not good enough to be around you champions of the gun.

Ok, wait! So, what's the back pedaling here? Is the method of MPBR or X.X high at 100 yards not good enough now?

My point is, most hunters who use the MPBR or X.X high at 100 is for the longer range shots 200 to 300 yards. I'll post more shortly when I have time.