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#6512659 - 10/26/16 11:50 AM Whooping Crane killer loses gun rights for five years
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Among other things:

http://www.newsweek.com/texas-fines-whooping-crane-killer-revokes-his-gun-rights-513612

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The Texas man, Trey Joseph Frederick, admitted to shooting two whooping cranes in January with a rifle near the Louisiana border, according to court documents. U.S. Magistrate Judge Zack Hawthorn, from the Eastern District of Texas, also revoked Frederick’s hunting license and access to firearms for the next five years. The sentence includes 200 hours of community service—the most the court has ever issued—and a fine of $25,810, to be split between Texas Parks and Wildlife Foundation and the International Crane Foundation, an organization that raises the animals and releases them into the wild.
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#6512663 - 10/26/16 11:52 AM Re: Whooping Crane killer loses gun rights for five years [Re: Duck_Hunter]
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lose gun right for 5 years for killing a whooping crane...almost seems worth it, its the $25k that would stop me
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#6512664 - 10/26/16 11:53 AM Re: Whooping Crane killer loses gun rights for five years [Re: Duck_Hunter]
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Lucky he didn't lose it for a lifetime.

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#6512673 - 10/26/16 11:56 AM Re: Whooping Crane killer loses gun rights for five years [Re: aerangis]
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Originally Posted By: aerangis
Lucky he didn't lose it for a lifetime.


yeah I thought it was a way bigger deal for killing one also
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#6512688 - 10/26/16 12:04 PM Re: Whooping Crane killer loses gun rights for five years [Re: Duck_Hunter]
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The Texas man, Trey Joseph Frederick, admitted to shooting two whooping cranes in January WITH A RIFLE near the Louisiana border,


That't the part that gets me. It's not like it was a guy on a crane hunt who just couldn't ID them.

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#6512696 - 10/26/16 12:07 PM Re: Whooping Crane killer loses gun rights for five years [Re: Buffs 1]
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The Texas man, Trey Joseph Frederick, admitted to shooting two whooping cranes in January WITH A RIFLE near the Louisiana border,


That't the part that gets me. It's not like it was a guy on a crane hunt who just couldn't ID them.


If I remember correctly, he admitted to knowing what he was doing. His FaceBook page was all about what a prolific waterfowl hunter he was and how he lived and breathed it. He knew what he was doing. He pled guilty, too.
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#6512700 - 10/26/16 12:08 PM Re: Whooping Crane killer loses gun rights for five years [Re: garrett]
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Originally Posted By: aerangis
Lucky he didn't lose it for a lifetime.


yeah I thought it was a way bigger deal for killing one also


I did too. At least the fine part. It's up to $50k for killing them. He killed two with a rifle on purpose and was fined $28k?
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#6512701 - 10/26/16 12:09 PM Re: Whooping Crane killer loses gun rights for five years [Re: Duck_Hunter]
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The kid was only 18 years old and is probably immature for his age. I did lots of stupid things when I was a teen.

What I don't understand is how a judge can take away your gun-owning rights, unless this was part of a plea-bargain he accepted.
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#6512726 - 10/26/16 12:19 PM Re: Whooping Crane killer loses gun rights for five years [Re: postoak]
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What I don't understand is how a judge can take away your gun-owning rights, unless this was part of a plea-bargain he accepted.

I guess it is a felony crime. All felons lose the right to own guns.
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#6512738 - 10/26/16 12:25 PM Re: Whooping Crane killer loses gun rights for five years [Re: postoak]
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Originally Posted By: postoak
The kid was only 18 years old and is probably immature for his age. I did lots of stupid things when I was a teen.

What I don't understand is how a judge can take away your gun-owning rights, unless this was part of a plea-bargain he accepted.


He was convicted, there was no plea deal. Maybe with crimes against wildlife a federal judge is able to do this?
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#6512779 - 10/26/16 12:42 PM Re: Whooping Crane killer loses gun rights for five years [Re: rexmitchell]
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I guess this wasn't in the name of science?
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#6512796 - 10/26/16 12:48 PM Re: Whooping Crane killer loses gun rights for five years [Re: Limit Extender]
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I guess this wasn't in the name of science?


if he was only 18 and immature for his age he might not have known about that loophole
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#6512801 - 10/26/16 12:50 PM Re: Whooping Crane killer loses gun rights for five years [Re: Duck_Hunter]
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The lower sentencing may be related to the Louisiana stocked birds being considered a non-essential, experimental population under the Endangered Species Act. The good news is the remaining Louisiana population produced a couple chicks this year. First time in something like 75 years.
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#6512802 - 10/26/16 12:50 PM Re: Whooping Crane killer loses gun rights for five years [Re: garrett]
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I guess this wasn't in the name of science?


if he was only 18 and immature for his age he might not have known about that loophole


It helps to be informed.
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#6512831 - 10/26/16 01:02 PM Re: Whooping Crane killer loses gun rights for five years [Re: Duck_Hunter]
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He deserved ALOT more.

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