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 NIGHTFORCE SHV 4-14 50 F1 VS VORTEX VIPER PST 4-16x50 FFP
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10/21/16 05:04 PM
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NIGHTFORCE SHV COST 1250.00 VS VORTEX VIPER PST COST 629.00 CABELAS REFURBISED RIFLE REMINGTON 700 5R 308 WIN 20 INCH BARREL WHAT SCOPE WOULD YOU PUT ON THE RIFLE? THANK YOU FOR YOUR OPINIONS.
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Re: NIGHTFORCE SHV 4-14 50 F1 VS VORTEX VIPER PST 4-16x50 FFP
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10/21/16 10:46 PM
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Nightforce at twice the price of the PST is the answer.
Or you may consider the SS 5-20x50 at $1100ish. Also nice and durable.
Next question?
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Re: NIGHTFORCE SHV 4-14 50 F1 VS VORTEX VIPER PST 4-16x50 FFP
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10/22/16 12:35 AM
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NF, and Viper PST should not be compared together.
RHutch made a good post, I completely agree with.
Burris XTR II in Mil dot is an excellent option, as well.
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Re: NIGHTFORCE SHV 4-14 50 F1 VS VORTEX VIPER PST 4-16x50 FFP
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10/22/16 08:54 AM
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Re: NIGHTFORCE SHV 4-14 50 F1 VS VORTEX VIPER PST 4-16x50 FFP
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10/22/16 10:48 AM
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Depends on what you want to do with the rifle.
But IF your question is: Which is the higher quality scope, its the NF all day long.
In the Vortex line-up you'll need to be in the Razor series before making a comparison to the NF and even then...I'd give the nod to the NF.
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Re: NIGHTFORCE SHV 4-14 50 F1 VS VORTEX VIPER PST 4-16x50 FFP
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10/22/16 01:41 PM
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Not a huge fan of the SHV. I would honestly get a Burris before the SHV model of could save some money and go Vortex PST which is an awesome scope. They can't make them fast enough.
I know quit a few guys you had the SHV and hated it. If you can look at all them and compare I would do that. You can also get a NXS line of NF for a little more money or pick up a Razor scope for 2k all day long
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Re: NIGHTFORCE SHV 4-14 50 F1 VS VORTEX VIPER PST 4-16x50 FFP
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10/22/16 01:54 PM
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I would look beyond the pst
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Re: NIGHTFORCE SHV 4-14 50 F1 VS VORTEX VIPER PST 4-16x50 FFP
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10/22/16 02:14 PM
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Depends on what you want to do with the rifle.
But IF your question is: Which is the higher quality scope, its the NF all day long.
In the Vortex line-up you'll need to be in the Razor series before making a comparison to the NF and even then...I'd give the nod to the NF. Personally, I think the new Razor blows away the SHV.
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Re: NIGHTFORCE SHV 4-14 50 F1 VS VORTEX VIPER PST 4-16x50 FFP
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10/22/16 02:17 PM
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Well, they're not the same class of scope. Razor is a big, heavy, long range scope, you would have to compare it to a NF ATACR-F1.
The SHV was designed to be much lighter weight than every other NF models, trying to appeal to hunters that have the skill to shoot distance.
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Re: NIGHTFORCE SHV 4-14 50 F1 VS VORTEX VIPER PST 4-16x50 FFP
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Vortex is dying a slow death
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Re: NIGHTFORCE SHV 4-14 50 F1 VS VORTEX VIPER PST 4-16x50 FFP
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10/22/16 08:18 PM
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You must've been hitting that whiskey you have.
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Re: NIGHTFORCE SHV 4-14 50 F1 VS VORTEX VIPER PST 4-16x50 FFP
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10/22/16 09:02 PM
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Re: NIGHTFORCE SHV 4-14 50 F1 VS VORTEX VIPER PST 4-16x50 FFP
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Vortex is dying a slow death The PST is dying a slow death. I would say they are one of the few listening to what people have to say
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Re: NIGHTFORCE SHV 4-14 50 F1 VS VORTEX VIPER PST 4-16x50 FFP
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10/23/16 03:21 PM
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I dont believe anything beats a sightron SIII for glass or tracking until you step up CONSIDERABLY in price. Then its still marginal.....
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Re: NIGHTFORCE SHV 4-14 50 F1 VS VORTEX VIPER PST 4-16x50 FFP
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Vortex is dying a slow death The PST is dying a slow death. I would say they are one of the few listening to what people have to say What is wrong the PST line? I never owned a Vortex but I am considering. Some people love them and tout their Customer Service. I'd prefer a scope I never have to send back or one that won't bite the dust on an expensive hunt.
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Re: NIGHTFORCE SHV 4-14 50 F1 VS VORTEX VIPER PST 4-16x50 FFP
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10/23/16 04:45 PM
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I dont believe anything beats a sightron SIII for glass or tracking until you step up CONSIDERABLY in price. Then its still marginal..... lots of truth here!!! I wouldn't call gluing an eye piece back on a brand new pair of $500 binos good service, and it took a month...
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Re: NIGHTFORCE SHV 4-14 50 F1 VS VORTEX VIPER PST 4-16x50 FFP
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10/23/16 06:21 PM
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The PST is what it is. It's an entry level FFP(some are spf) made in the Philippines. The razors are sobfar beyond the PST in glass its not even funny. The razor AMG has the best glass on the market in that price range and some dare to compare it to S&B. I've looked through them all BUT I havent had the opportunity to compare the AMG side by side with a S&B. The SHV isn't even comparable to the PST in terms of glass, features etc. Since the OP OK never stated which exact SHV or PST I cant offer any more feedback.
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Re: NIGHTFORCE SHV 4-14 50 F1 VS VORTEX VIPER PST 4-16x50 FFP
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10/23/16 09:29 PM
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The PST is what it is. It's an entry level FFP(some are spf) made in the Philippines. The razors are sobfar beyond the PST in glass its not even funny. The razor AMG has the best glass on the market in that price range and some dare to compare it to S&B. I've looked through them all BUT I havent had the opportunity to compare the AMG side by side with a S&B. The SHV isn't even comparable to the PST in terms of glass, features etc. Since the OP OK never stated which exact SHV or PST I cant offer any more feedback. Did you read the title?
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Re: NIGHTFORCE SHV 4-14 50 F1 VS VORTEX VIPER PST 4-16x50 FFP
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10/24/16 01:28 AM
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Re: NIGHTFORCE SHV 4-14 50 F1 VS VORTEX VIPER PST 4-16x50 FFP
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10/24/16 01:36 AM
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In that case between the 2 they both have good features. The SHV has better glass but I dont think it's $600 better glass. For a little more(albeit used) the gen ii razor 3-18 with an ebr-2c Would be a better choice if i had a recommendation.
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Re: NIGHTFORCE SHV 4-14 50 F1 VS VORTEX VIPER PST 4-16x50 FFP
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11/03/16 01:50 PM
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Have you seen the two at dusk... That's where the similarities stop.
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Re: NIGHTFORCE SHV 4-14 50 F1 VS VORTEX VIPER PST 4-16x50 FFP
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11/03/16 09:59 PM
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no have not seen. after looking at everyone replies seems like vortex scopes are junk staying away from them.
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Re: NIGHTFORCE SHV 4-14 50 F1 VS VORTEX VIPER PST 4-16x50 FFP
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11/03/16 11:26 PM
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Vortex scopes are not junk but with the 2 scopes you asked about is comparing apples to oranges. The NF is a clear winner over the PST, both were designed with 2 different shooters in mind.
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Re: NIGHTFORCE SHV 4-14 50 F1 VS VORTEX VIPER PST 4-16x50 FFP
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11/04/16 04:39 AM
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no have not seen. after looking at everyone replies seems like vortex scopes are junk staying away from them. Lol.. Theyre not junk. No questions asked lifetime warranty, excellent customer service, good illumination at all settings, clear at night, a quality product for the money. I bought a 4x14 shv sold it a few days later. Ive had 200$ scopes that had better illumination. I dont know what the shv f1 illumination looks like but the sfp shv is terrible.
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Re: NIGHTFORCE SHV 4-14 50 F1 VS VORTEX VIPER PST 4-16x50 FFP
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Thanks for information new at the scope buying will take a look at them again.
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