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Iv been shooting pigs lately with my deer rifle which is a remington 700 in 270win. The last 2 weeks Iv shot 14 hogs ranging from 100lbs to 300lbs (montague county) absolutely drops everything in its tracks, the draw back I'm noticing is the rifle is a bolt action gun which highly limits the shots I can take at a single group of hogs. Does anyone make an AR in 270? or anything similar to this caliber? I like the ballistics of the 6.8 but not the price and general availability of shells. Any input is appreciated.

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Full size 270 cartridges , once you "buy in" to the gun at a higher price that 6.8 or other wildcats (270 AR / etc) then as you said the cost is less for ammo and so in the long run it evens out.

That's if you buy factory ammo if you reload then you start saving instantly with 270 Winchester

I haven't had time to load develop or shoot the gun much, the first two boxes went quickly the gun is accurate.

If you find another option let me know but it's a long shot ....


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Well its likely your shot placement that is killing them on the spot. I and many others have shot a bunch of hogs with 270 Winchester and had varying results.

You start shooting at running hogs in a group and anything short of a howitzer isn't going to stop them in their tracks.


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The AR10 platform chambered in 270 is a good pig dropper.
You are taking your time and placing the shot well since you basically only get one shot.
If you have the time to place your shot with precision, it's very well proven you can take pigs with a .22LR.

The down side of the AR10 platform is those things are bricks!
Packing one around was simply too much for me.
After I tried one in 308 for a while and went back to the AR15 platform in 6.8 with ARP barrels.
I have found it effective at all ranges I shoot.

The downside to the 6.8 is finding decent ammo off the shelf.
I do handload so the cost is not bad.
I primarily use the 120gr SSTs pushed by AA2200 powder.
That combo has taken over 300 pigs.


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I think Remington made an R25 in 3 different calibers.. I want to say .243, .308, and .270... but may have been 7mm08..

Might look into the .300 blkout as well.. if you have an ar15, you're looking at a cheap swap of the barrel, and gas block and tube, flash hider... or just build an upper..

compare the .300 to the 6.8.. you might be surprised

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I am pretty sure that gun uses a proprietary upper and lower as .270 Win is a long action cartridge vs .308. 6.5 Creed, 7-08 ect being short action.

Agreed with what others have said about shot placement. My 20" 5.56 is my primary pig hunting gun and hasn't let me down yet. Still if you want a bigger round I would go for either an AR10 or 6.5 Grendel or 6.8. Both of which can be found at academy or any number of online vendors.


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I use the AR 10 in 308, it is heavy to carry but worth the punch to me. The biggest problem I had was getting it back on sight for a second shot and you will too if you go with a 270. I toned mine down with an adjustable gas block and a compensator on the front, but you better be wearing ear protection when you shoot.

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will low recoil ammo cycle right through AR?

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Full size 270 cartridges , once you "buy in" to the gun at a higher price that 6.8 or other wildcats (270 AR / etc) then as you said the cost is less for ammo and so in the long run it evens out.

That's if you buy factory ammo if you reload then you start saving instantly with 270 Winchester

I haven't had time to load develop or shoot the gun much, the first two boxes went quickly the gun is accurate.

If you find another option let me know but it's a long shot ....


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Originally Posted By: Stevarino
Might look into the .300 blkout as well.. if you have an ar15, you're looking at a cheap swap of the barrel, and gas block and tube, flash hider... or just build an upper..

compare the .300 to the 6.8.. you might be surprised


I and a lot of my friends have tried the 300 Blackout.
It is woefully inadequate for pigs.


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Might look into the .300 blkout as well.. if you have an ar15, you're looking at a cheap swap of the barrel, and gas block and tube, flash hider... or just build an upper..

compare the .300 to the 6.8.. you might be surprised


I and a lot of my friends have tried the 300 Blackout.
It is woefully inadequate for pigs.


Interesting.. myself and a lot of my friends have had a lot of success. Sounds like user error to me..

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Might look into the .300 blkout as well.. if you have an ar15, you're looking at a cheap swap of the barrel, and gas block and tube, flash hider... or just build an upper..

compare the .300 to the 6.8.. you might be surprised


I and a lot of my friends have tried the 300 Blackout.
It is woefully inadequate for pigs.


Interesting.. myself and a lot of my friends have had a lot of success. Sounds like user error to me..


Neither is what the original poster inquired about however both have scored their fair share of pigs.

When I begin loading for the 270 Win I'll be turning out 150gr bonded bullets at .50 a piece - that's powder/primer/cases the full load.

Nothing in a competing caliber is close for that price.

The Noreen is a properitary design to accommodate the long action cartridge.

A decent compensater will keep you on target, it came equipped with one but for the reason already mention (noise mitigation) I switch it out with a linear comp.

It will be harder to hit running targets but that isn't a primary concern for me given how I want my first shot to hit (terminal velocity).

I plan on getting serious with the loading soon... But I've been saying that for 3 months now too

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I would look into AR's in varying calibers. I have both a 300BLK and a 458 Socom and they both knock the snot outta hogs. The 458 is expensive on ammo but it absolutely will put em down. The 300BLK is great too and ammo is available...but you need to keep shots under maybe 150 yards. A little longer if you're confidant with it. But either way you go, if you dont hit them in the head or neck, they're going to run and you might not ever find em.

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Originally Posted By: JimRitcholds481
Iv been shooting pigs lately with my deer rifle which is a remington 700 in 270win. The last 2 weeks Iv shot 14 hogs ranging from 100lbs to 300lbs (montague county) absolutely drops everything in its tracks, the draw back I'm noticing is the rifle is a bolt action gun which highly limits the shots I can take at a single group of hogs. Does anyone make an AR in 270? or anything similar to this caliber? I like the ballistics of the 6.8 but not the price and general availability of shells. Any input is appreciated.
NOREEN, available in .270, 25-06, 30-06, $1600-2000,


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For the price of an AR based on a .270. The 6.8 is cheaper not to mention a lot lighter. My 6.8 weighs roughly the same as my buddies AR10. Mine has a suppressor and a thermal mounted on it compared to his 3-9x40 scope equipped rifle. That's a big difference if you have to lug it around.

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Might look into the .300 blkout as well.. if you have an ar15, you're looking at a cheap swap of the barrel, and gas block and tube, flash hider... or just build an upper..

compare the .300 to the 6.8.. you might be surprised


I and a lot of my friends have tried the 300 Blackout.
It is woefully inadequate for pigs.


Interesting.. myself and a lot of my friends have had a lot of success. Sounds like user error to me..


Not user error, just different requirements.
Think contract elimination on 1000+ acre ranches in a target rich environment.
The 6.8 is a nice balance of knockdown, accuracy, range, rapid fire, weight and proper bullets for the job at hand.
The 300BOs did everything right except consistently drop moving pigs.

A lot of times, the problem with any particular caliber is getting proper ammo to shoot pigs.
Most of the stuff is targeted to deer or other soft skinned critters.
That drives a lot of folks, myself included, to handload so you can get proper pig ammo.
Another problem with the 300BO is lack of proper bullets designed specifically for that gun AND to take thick, hard skinned stuff like pigs.
Plenty of soft skinned bullets OR bullets designed for 30 cal guns that push the bullet much faster than the 300BO.
The 300BO was designed for close up defense against soft skinned stuff at limited range, possibly suppressed - none of which I do.

You might also look into a 7.62x39 upper mounted on AR15.
Ammo is pretty cheap and when shot thru an AR upper will easily deliver MOP (Minute Of Pig) accuracy.
The 7.62x39 built uppers are much more reliable than just a couple of years ago.
It does require a dedicated magazine also.
MidwayUSA has a 7.62x39 rifle kit on sale right now for 409.95.
It comes with complete, built upper and all the parts minus the lower receiver.
You could pick up an Anderson lower receiver and have a pretty nice AR47 for under 500.


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In an AR platform, if I didn't care about using subsonic bullets, I'd probably go with a 6.8 SPC II or a 6.5 Grendel.

Since I hand load, once I get a selection of brass, the ammo cost is pretty much a constant regardless of caliber assuming I'm not shooting anything really exotic.


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Just buy a browning BAR

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A low cost option is the Remington 742 Woodsmaster. It can be had for around 4-500 in 270 or about any of the other "standard" calibers. I've heard they are hit or miss as far as reliability but I've had two that were real shooters. Someone always trades me out of them.


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With 270 you should be able to line up 2 and get more per shot

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Pigs can flat out run! Only Lee Friggin Harvey is gonna get off multi shots with a bolt/heavy caliber and hit!

6.8 is a true pig killer! Low recoil. Light Package, Large mag capacity. CONFIGURABLE!

NOW, on another topic. You all love guns and shooting/hunting. You've all seen ammo prices/availability. You all have PASSION in your sport. R - E - L - O - A - D !!!

Very gratifying to roll your own and kill dinner! Also, tight groups on target!

Academy sells the 120 SST in 6.8. You can catch them on sale for 18.99 sometimes. Keep the brass, cause you'll now be reloading!

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Another option is getting hold of Ritch Johnson at RITCH S PRECISION GUNS Best person I have found to build a quality AR that will flat shoot. I have two and he is not only a bench-rest champion but has several wild cat cartridges to his credit.

I use the 6 x 6.8 and the 6.5 x 6.8 and Ritch has several more offerings. I love the short light weight bbl on the 6. This AR only weighs 7lbs before the scope and will kill like Thor.

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Just buy a browning BAR


Truth spoken!!! I have one in 300WSM that I can get off at least 2 good shots on a group when they take off. Only drawback is the 3 round magazine. But where else can u sling 150g of lead at 3300fps in semiauto?

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In a AR platform, I have found my light 6.8 SPC II to be handy and my 6.5 grendel to work. Though if you want a 30-06 length the Noreen is worth a look. It is reasonable in cost, and they work. CDNN had some at a competitive price at one time. If you need to spend some of your hard earned cash and need the ultimate Christmas gift, look at a Nemo arms 300 win mag Omen...we shot one of those 3 weeks ago out at my place and boy, I was impressed...I don't need one.....but I was impressed... I think if you want to pew,pew a bunch of hogs at any distance, and make pork sausage out of them at the same time...this is the gun to do it...

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You may find that the semi auto and high magazine capacity won't help you that much. Once you start shooting, the pigs scramble, and even with an AR, you will likely only get 4 or 5 shots in. You can almost equal that with either a lever or bolt if you are quick with your actions.

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