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#6504773 - 10/20/16 08:29 PM Quail Drowning
Will Offline
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Registered: 09/01/04
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Loc: South TX
Our family ranch is in south west McMullen county. All year I have been seeing tons of quail, bobs and blues. About 3 weeks ago, we had 6 inch rain come in about a 12 hour span. This kind of rain is very unusual for this area. Since the big rain, I have seen almost zero quail. I have seen some blues, but the bobs have disappeared .

So can bob white quail drown in a fast, heavy rain? Doesn't seem possible, but something has happened since the rain. I was seeing 10-15 covies just driving out of the ranch in the evening, and last week I saw one covey of blues.

The ranch does have more grass than I've seen in 30 years, so they could be out there, and I'm just not seeing them on the roads.

Any thoughts?
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#6504837 - 10/20/16 09:16 PM Re: Quail Drowning [Re: Will]
Coldwind Offline
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Rain is always, always better than drought or no rain. The quail definitely did not drown, they are surely hiding safely in the tall green grass, that is loaded with fat insects and small seeds, so they don't have to move a lot. Six inches of rain in 12 hours can easily be absorbed by the ground, ditches and creeks. In addition, quail are strong tough birds, six inches of rain will not drown them.

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#6504880 - 10/20/16 09:41 PM Re: Quail Drowning [Re: Will]
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I have heard from an old quail farmer making a comment once about quail drowning so I believe its possible. I would think it would need to be more like several days in a row of down pour but I dont really know.

I have a lease there so I hope they come back or are just in the grass!
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#6504931 - 10/20/16 10:25 PM Re: Quail Drowning [Re: Will]
Mundo Offline
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We have a lease in McMullen County south of Fowlerton. Been there for years, had a number of rain storms like you describe, lots of flooding, doesn't seem to impact the bird population. Unless the they are on the nest, or chicks before they can fly, I wouldn't think it would be a problem. My guess is the birds are still there but don't have to travel much for food or loafing areas so aren't seen as much.


Edited by Mundo (10/20/16 10:26 PM)

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#6505097 - 10/21/16 07:36 AM Re: Quail Drowning [Re: Will]
CCBIRDDOGMAN Offline
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I should probably bring my dogs out there and check it out for you. You know, just to make sure. grin
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#6505182 - 10/21/16 08:38 AM Re: Quail Drowning [Re: Will]
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I've seen it flood out nesting areas.
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#6505219 - 10/21/16 09:06 AM Re: Quail Drowning [Re: CCBIRDDOGMAN]
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Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
I should probably bring my dogs out there and check it out for you. You know, just to make sure. grin


haha, good one
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#6505378 - 10/21/16 10:54 AM Re: Quail Drowning [Re: Will]
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Chicks will drown, adult birds will not....all this years hatch should be old enough to survive with the rest of the covey.
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#6505401 - 10/21/16 11:03 AM Re: Quail Drowning [Re: MS1454]
Barny Topwater Offline
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Registered: 11/22/09
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Loc: New Braunfels TX USA
Originally Posted By: MS1454
Originally Posted By: CCBIRDDOGMAN
I should probably bring my dogs out there and check it out for you. You know, just to make sure. grin


haha, good one

See what you get when you try to be helpful? laugh
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#6505528 - 10/21/16 12:29 PM Re: Quail Drowning [Re: Will]
dune2218 Offline
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Registered: 02/09/16
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Loc: Temple, tx
This is the exact issue why I will not lease land starting after deer season unless I can go on it and see if there are any quail left (in Jan)....... how many quail in Oct has nothing to do with how many will be there in Jan.
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#6505755 - 10/21/16 03:50 PM Re: Quail Drowning [Re: Mr. Clean]
John Humbert Offline
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Originally Posted By: Mr. Clean
Chicks will drown, adult birds will not....all this years hatch should be old enough to survive with the rest of the covey.


This. Quail can fly, so aside from washing away chicks or nesting areas - the rain will be a good thing.

That being said, if there is bad flooding, and the water persists - the birds may relocate off your property.

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#6505757 - 10/21/16 03:57 PM Re: Quail Drowning [Re: Will]
TXPanhandler Offline
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Registered: 09/12/12
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Loc: Texas Panhandle
Did the storm include hail? We have problems in the panhandle with quail being killed by large hailstones during heavy downpours.
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#6506322 - 10/22/16 08:35 AM Re: Quail Drowning [Re: Will]
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#6506952 - 10/22/16 06:45 PM Re: Quail Drowning [Re: Will]
Will Offline
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Registered: 09/01/04
Posts: 306
Loc: South TX
Thanks for all the replies. For anyone curious, I was there again today and saw zero quail driving in or out of the ranch.

However, we did a game survey by helicopter today. We always count number of covies flushed along with normal deer counts. 51 covies moved for the helicopter. That number is up from 47 last year.

I believe there is so much thick grass that I'm just not seeing them. Never thought I'd say that about this country. Rain does amazing things.

I'm not sure if we will hunt it much this year, not sure how I would manage without good pointing dogs.
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