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Profiled!
#6504437
10/20/16 09:14 PM
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LarryCopper
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I was on the way back from the lease last weekend with my brother in my dusty truck when I saw a TX DPS officer in an SUV on the side of the road. I didn't think I was speeding so I was surprised when he turned on the red n blues and came after me.
I had my license and insurance ready on the dash and both hands on the wheel when he got to my door with the window open. LEO have it tough, I try real hard to make it easy as I can. He told me I was being pulled over for a "speed check", whatever the heck that is. He saw all the gear in the back and asked if we had been hunting. Told him we were so busy we didn't have time to bow hunt, but I did pop a white wing around camp. He said OK, asked a few more questions about it (I thought he was just making conversation) then went back to his vehicle.
About 5 seconds after he gets in another LEO gets out of his passenger side and came up to my truck. Game Warden... he asked for my license and what I did with the dove. Told him I didn't have time to clean it so I had it in the cooler. I'm sure if I had breasted it out I may have caught some static. Having no running water paid off!
It wasn't until afterwards when he sped off, going around a couple of sedans, to pull over a pickup towing a trailer with an ATV that I realized what had happened. They were fishing. Profiled! It's probably better I didn't figure it out until it was over.
Anyone ever had that happen?
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Re: Profiled!
[Re: LarryCopper]
#6504445
10/20/16 09:27 PM
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KG68
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Re: Profiled!
[Re: LarryCopper]
#6504449
10/20/16 09:32 PM
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texretvet
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Exactly why you NEVER volunteer ANY information to ANY authority.
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Re: Profiled!
[Re: texretvet]
#6504452
10/20/16 09:33 PM
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Mike W
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Exactly why you NEVER volunteer ANY information to ANY authority. +1
This cannot be fixed at the voting booth.. Wake Up You Morons!
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Re: Profiled!
[Re: LarryCopper]
#6504518
10/20/16 10:14 PM
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tehachapi
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Texretvet is 100% correct. Law enforcement are NOT your friends. By trying to be friendly you set yourself up for a bust. Never volunteer or answer any questions from any authority.
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Re: Profiled!
[Re: texretvet]
#6504527
10/20/16 10:20 PM
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RedRanger
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Exactly why you NEVER volunteer ANY information to ANY authority. True, I was even told that by a cop.
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Re: Profiled!
[Re: tehachapi]
#6504528
10/20/16 10:21 PM
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LonestarCobra
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It's the time of year they get stiffies for this stuff. I have been pulled over for it before, and they were more interested in how my trailer was registered.
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Re: Profiled!
[Re: LarryCopper]
#6504538
10/20/16 10:25 PM
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JCB
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I guess you could say I have been "profiled" before. LOL When I was about 17 me and a friend were fishing from the bank at Lake Ray Hubbard. After we left and were going over I-30 a Game Warden pulls in behind us. He asks if we had been fishing and we told him yes. Asked if we caught any and we said yes. He asked to see them and we told him we let them go. He then proceeded to search the truck inside and out. Even looked under the sun visors and in the Mapsco for them fish we let go. Obviously he was looking for more than fish that day and never found either.
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Re: Profiled!
[Re: LarryCopper]
#6504540
10/20/16 10:27 PM
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LarryCopper
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Maybe I need to start a Camo Lives Matter movement.
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Re: Profiled!
[Re: LarryCopper]
#6504560
10/20/16 10:47 PM
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Jimbo
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I know a guy that got pulled over just because he had two four wheelers on his trailer. They wanted all the paper work to check if they were stolen. That's a good thing, but just shows you have to be prepared.
Thursday at 12:45 PM #33 Once i learned that i didn't "NEED" to kill something, and that if i did kill something all the fun stopped and work began, i was a much better hunter.
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Re: Profiled!
[Re: LarryCopper]
#6504566
10/20/16 10:54 PM
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postoak
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Just how do you avoid answering if LE asks a direct question about your activities such as "Been hunting"? Lying to an LEO is obstruction of justice, isn't it?
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Re: Profiled!
[Re: LarryCopper]
#6504586
10/20/16 11:10 PM
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S.A. hunter
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Yeah, I don't understand the point of the thread...... they did there job, you did what you are supposed to do. The end.
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Re: Profiled!
[Re: LarryCopper]
#6504598
10/20/16 11:21 PM
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txshntr
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Why would you lie or withhold information unless you were hiding something....good grief.
On I-20, they used to sit on the bridges and look for deer in the back of trucks. If you had one, a GW would pull you over shortly. Never bothered me
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Re: Profiled!
[Re: LarryCopper]
#6504609
10/20/16 11:32 PM
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SniperRAB
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Had the exact same thing happen to me coming into Browmwood in front of the old 3M plant... Trooper Pulls me over and as he's talking to me (I was Speeding) see someone in my right eye talking to Lovie thru the passenger side window.. Trooper and I chat and he gives me a warning then said I think my Partner needs to ask you a few questions, checked my Coolers and we chatted...There's a reason it says State Police on a Wardens Vehicle now...Didn't Bother me a Bit, both were Brothers and Trooper gave me a Warning when I was obviously speeding.. Don't do anything wrong and you won't have a issue
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Re: Profiled!
[Re: postoak]
#6504617
10/20/16 11:43 PM
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RedRanger
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Just how do you avoid answering if LE asks a direct question about your activities such as "Been hunting"? Lying to an LEO is obstruction of justice, isn't it? In Texas all you have to give them is your name. Anything else you can decline to answer
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Re: Profiled!
[Re: txshntr]
#6504619
10/20/16 11:44 PM
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RedRanger
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Why would you lie or withhold information unless you were hiding something....good grief.
On I-20, they used to sit on the bridges and look for deer in the back of trucks. If you had one, a GW would pull you over shortly. Never bothered me In your case if you have a deer in back of a truck then I have no issue with LEO pulling a person over. The OP was just driving and had a dusty truck and then next person had ATV, that would be profiling. You are in construction, why don't authorities pull over construction crew in vans with ladders and arrest those for not having a work permit or a legal entry visa or not carrying their greencard as they are required to do by Federal law?
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Re: Profiled!
[Re: LarryCopper]
#6504687
10/21/16 12:33 AM
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LandPirate
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Some of you folks who try to pass yourselves as being so smart really aren't. Geeze.
Wonderful advice in this thread. I think our resident criminal types are revealing themselves.
Mike Buda, Tx Hunt near Freer
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Re: Profiled!
[Re: LarryCopper]
#6504719
10/21/16 12:59 AM
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rifleman
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Should've started off the conversation with.."I don't hunt, I stole all of this stuff." The GW probably wouldn't have cared about a dove.
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Re: Profiled!
[Re: Jimbo]
#6504730
10/21/16 01:04 AM
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krmitchell
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I know a guy that got pulled over just because he had two four wheelers on his trailer. They wanted all the paper work to check if they were stolen. That's a good thing, but just shows you have to be prepared. Not to be rude but if I was asked to prove that a ATV I had was mine I'd ask them to prove that it wasn't. There is no requirement for registration/paperwork, etc. on an ATV being pulled on a trailer. People need to stop accepting when they are pulled over and asked to prove they own something just because they are in possession of it. That is pure BS. I've never been asked anything like this so maybe I don't look guilty but it is ridiculous to be accused of a crime for no reason and supply information needlessly.
Last edited by rexmitchell; 10/21/16 01:16 AM.
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Re: Profiled!
[Re: LarryCopper]
#6504732
10/21/16 01:04 AM
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603Country
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It could be worse. A lady friend of my wife lives with a fairly rough looking Mexican (untamed beard and years of wear and tear). I think he's legal, but I never asked. He's quite a nice guy and knowledgeable on several topics. While the ladies visit, he and I visit. The subject of profiling came up, and I asked him if it was really that much of a bother to him. He said he gets pulled over 3 or 4 times a week. He has a decent truck and usually a trailer with lawn care gear on it. No criminal record and doesn't drink.
As for me, except for a ticket or two over the last 30 or 40 years, I've only been pulled over for nothing one time. Fat DPS cop pulled me over at Madisonville after I pulled out of the Sonic in my BMW. I had done nothing wrong, unless eating a burger left handed while I drove was a violation. I had on a suit and tie, heading to a meeting. I really think he was training the rookie that was with him on how to do a traffic stop, and he was probably sure that a burger eating white guy in a BMW wouldn't fill the air with lead. He was a jerk, and didn't need to be. It wasn't profiling, but I lost most of the love I had for the DPS.
Not my monkeys, not my circus...
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Re: Profiled!
[Re: LarryCopper]
#6504736
10/21/16 01:06 AM
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Deep Sea
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Have none of you ever heard of the 4th amendment? Too many of you sound like "if you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about!" I will not lie to a LEO or even mislead them. But if one ever pulls me over for a "speed check" just so a game warden can check me out or for any other dubious reason, I will be calling my lawyer and not answering any questions.
Scott Eastty AW Scott Construction Company Bastrop, TX 512-845-0187 For all your metal building needs, state wide. www.acscott.com
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Re: Profiled!
[Re: Deep Sea]
#6504739
10/21/16 01:08 AM
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krmitchell
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Have none of you ever heard of the 4th amendment? Too many of you sound like "if you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about!" I will not lie to a LEO or even mislead them. But if one ever pulls me over for a "speed check" just so a game warden can check me out or for any other dubious reason, I will be calling my lawyer and not answering any questions. Exactly^
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Re: Profiled!
[Re: krmitchell]
#6504749
10/21/16 01:12 AM
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Deep Sea
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Yes, I am reading all the sheeple chime in and I am screaming at my computer screen! We don't have to be d!cks to the cops, and I am not. I am usually very friendly to every LEO I see. I rarely get pulled over as I don't speed or do any other infractions. But I promise I would be hauled off to jail in a screaming fit if I was ever pulled over and asked to prove anything. That is not how it works in America, and I will not let it start with me. I guess you guys are OK with check points too?
Scott Eastty AW Scott Construction Company Bastrop, TX 512-845-0187 For all your metal building needs, state wide. www.acscott.com
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Re: Profiled!
[Re: Deep Sea]
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10/21/16 01:19 AM
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krmitchell
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Yes, I am reading all the sheeple chime in and I am screaming at my computer screen! We don't have to be d!cks to the cops, and I am not. I am usually very friendly to every LEO I see. I rarely get pulled over as I don't speed or do any other infractions. But I promise I would be hauled off to jail in a screaming fit if I was ever pulled over and asked to prove anything. That is not how it works in America, and I will not let it start with me. I guess you guys are OK with check points too? +1. You don't have to be rude to have your rights respected. We have had more than one thread regarding police pulling over someone only for having an ATV in the back of their truck. I can't believe people aren't more pissed off about being hassled because of this. It is not only illegal but it is ridiculous to pull over every person who has an ATV simply because of that.
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Re: Profiled!
[Re: txshntr]
#6504766
10/21/16 01:23 AM
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CRAnderson52
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Coming from a family of LEO's, I've never had any problem with them doing there job and checking me. But there is a good reason while I leave most of my gear at the ranch so I can run up and down the road and not worry about getting pulled over. Not because I'm doing anything wrong, I just don't need any help being any later.
You can run but you can't hide...
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