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#6504130 - 10/20/16 01:10 PM 2nd admendmant
Cowboy9215 Offline
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Registered: 10/27/13
Posts: 25
hate to say it. but I think we will be fighting like hell over the next years to keep our right.

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#6504712 - 10/20/16 07:56 PM Re: 2nd admendmant [Re: Cowboy9215]
sweetwood Offline
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You're not wrong.

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#6504725 - 10/20/16 08:01 PM Re: 2nd admendmant [Re: Cowboy9215]
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Registered: 03/18/13
Posts: 169
Loc: Harris County
Yep, if a Democrat gets elected to the Presidency we can pretty much kiss that Right goodbye.

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#6504851 - 10/20/16 09:22 PM Re: 2nd admendmant [Re: tehachapi]
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Registered: 12/03/09
Posts: 1188
Loc: North Texas
I'm starting to feel as if she is going to win! It's so important for everyone to get out and vote.

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#6507284 - 10/23/16 07:46 AM Re: 2nd admendmant [Re: Cowboy9215]
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Registered: 08/15/08
Posts: 748
Loc: Cedar Park, Texas
Dont believe the MSM as they want you to stay home. Go vote and make sure to push every 2nd A believer to vote as well.

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#6507325 - 10/23/16 09:01 AM Re: 2nd admendmant [Re: txwildcat]
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Registered: 02/28/08
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Loc: Granbury, TX
Originally Posted By: txwildcat
Dont believe the MSM as they want you to stay home. Go vote and make sure to push every 2nd A believer to vote as well.


Amen to this! No matter how much you have to hold your nose to push some of those buttons, DON'T STAY HOME!
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#6508879 - 10/24/16 11:05 AM Re: 2nd admendmant [Re: Cowboy9215]
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What does it take to change an amendment? 2/3 of both houses of Congress and if they pass it 3/4 of all states must pass it. So how soon do you think changes will be made?

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#6509080 - 10/24/16 12:45 PM Re: 2nd admendmant [Re: Ron H]
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Originally Posted By: Ron H
What does it take to change an amendment? 2/3 of both houses of Congress and if they pass it 3/4 of all states must pass it. So how soon do you think changes will be made?


That isn't going to happen, period. I'm more worried about making ownership more restrictive and/or ammo possession more difficult. That takes way less effort to achieve.


Edited by rexmitchell (10/24/16 12:48 PM)
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#6509256 - 10/24/16 02:04 PM Re: 2nd admendmant [Re: Cowboy9215]
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You guys don't understand the big picture (and I don't mean to blame you, it's just all too common these days). The 2nd amendment doesn't have to be changed at all. Only the interpretation of it. You have 4 Supreme Court justices now that believe, truly believe that the 2nd amendment applies to an individuals right. You have 4 that believe it does not. Tip that balance and you will lose every 2nd amendment decision that goes to the Supreme Court. Tip that balance, and you've lost the 2nd Amendment (in effect) without ever having to change it.
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#6509504 - 10/24/16 04:24 PM Re: 2nd admendmant [Re: Ron H]
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Registered: 02/28/08
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Originally Posted By: Ron H
What does it take to change an amendment? 2/3 of both houses of Congress and if they pass it 3/4 of all states must pass it. So how soon do you think changes will be made?


I have no concerns that Clinton will get the 2nd repealed or even amended. My concern is what she will be able to do in the way of Supreme Court justices. The interpretation of the 2nd by them is where your rights will begin to erode. If she is elected the balance will absolutely be shifted to the liberal side and that is bad for all of us. As others have said, there have been some close decisions and those close ones will not be in our favor going forward.
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#6509563 - 10/24/16 04:59 PM Re: 2nd admendmant [Re: Grizz]
skinnerback Offline
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Registered: 05/30/11
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Originally Posted By: Grizz
Originally Posted By: Ron H
What does it take to change an amendment? 2/3 of both houses of Congress and if they pass it 3/4 of all states must pass it. So how soon do you think changes will be made?


I have no concerns that Clinton will get the 2nd repealed or even amended. My concern is what she will be able to do in the way of Supreme Court justices. The interpretation of the 2nd by them is where your rights will begin to erode. If she is elected the balance will absolutely be shifted to the liberal side and that is bad for all of us. As others have said, there have been some close decisions and those close ones will not be in our favor going forward.


Pretty scary how close to the edge we are.
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#6509914 - 10/24/16 08:22 PM Re: 2nd admendmant [Re: Ron H]
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Originally Posted By: Ron H
What does it take to change an amendment? 2/3 of both houses of Congress and if they pass it 3/4 of all states must pass it. So how soon do you think changes will be made?


They won't repeal the amendment, the will regulate it out of existence.
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#6511765 - 10/25/16 08:38 PM Re: 2nd admendmant [Re: TXHOGSLAYER]
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Originally Posted By: TXHOGSLAYER
Originally Posted By: Ron H
What does it take to change an amendment? 2/3 of both houses of Congress and if they pass it 3/4 of all states must pass it. So how soon do you think changes will be made?


They won't repeal the amendment, the will regulate it out of existence.


That and letting the gun manufacturers be sued.

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#6512519 - 10/26/16 10:42 AM Re: 2nd admendmant [Re: leswad]
Marc in Bastrop Offline
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Originally Posted By: leswad
Originally Posted By: TXHOGSLAYER
Originally Posted By: Ron H
What does it take to change an amendment? 2/3 of both houses of Congress and if they pass it 3/4 of all states must pass it. So how soon do you think changes will be made?


They won't repeal the amendment, the will regulate it out of existence.


That and letting the gun manufacturers be sued.


Yep! Then add this.

Congress has unlimited ability to levy any amount of tax they wish. There has already been talk about a huge tax on ammo and reloading components and supplies. I can already hear the justification of a $5.00/round tax:

"This has nothing to do with the second amendment - we support that"
"You can still have all the ammo you need for self protection"
"After all, hunters only need a handful of cartridges per year"
"The new money will be for the children"
"This will stop the inner city violence"
"Think of all of the wildlife programs this can help fund!"

Anyone feel secure enough to want to bet against that? (Think tax stamp......)

Marc


Edited by Marc in Bastrop (10/26/16 10:54 AM)
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#6513074 - 10/26/16 02:46 PM Re: 2nd admendmant [Re: Cowboy9215]
Rockjockey Offline
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Registered: 10/07/16
Posts: 3
Loc: Chunkarock Texas
With her "pen and phone" we will see legislating through executive order, the precedence has been set and no one stood up and said a word about it.
I voted yesterday.


Edited by Rockjockey (10/26/16 02:46 PM)
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