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#6497695 - 10/16/16 12:32 PM Feeding issues with Berger VLD
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I loaded up some Berger 95 grain VLDs up in my .243 and they aren't feeding real well.
I loaded up pretty long (2.250 to ogive). They are pretty close to overall mag length.
I haven't had any problems with any other bullets but haven't loade any that long. Does anyone else have feeding issues with the VLDs?
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#6497740 - 10/16/16 01:21 PM Re: Feeding issues with Berger VLD [Re: watchale]
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What is the feeding issue? Bullet catching on magazine lip? Neck of brass too rough and catching? Bullet catching on bottom of chamber/feed ramp?

There are several things that could be causing this and it might not necessarily be the bullets in question. Can you see or feel where it is hanging?

You didn't give the OAL, nor the gun in question. confused2

I have loaded 2.650" for several magazine-fed .243s and never had a problem.
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#6497749 - 10/16/16 01:32 PM Re: Feeding issues with Berger VLD [Re: watchale]
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It was just a general question if anyone has any problems with VLDs. I was hunting last night (it was dark lol) and just having a little problem with them chambering. I'll have to look today and see what they're doing exactly.

The gun is a Remington 700. I have the manners stock w badger mini chassis and haven't any issues with lots of other type bullets.
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#6497755 - 10/16/16 01:37 PM Re: Feeding issues with Berger VLD [Re: watchale]
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I can't imagine that the VLD is causing any problem that isn't OAL related. I load them for 2 243s, a 7/08, and a 6.5 Creedmoor. No issues as long as I don't get them too long to feed through the magazine.
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#6497781 - 10/16/16 02:03 PM Re: Feeding issues with Berger VLD [Re: watchale]
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Hmmm. Alright, I was just trying to get close to the lands. Im new to loading and have a lot to learn lol. Coal is 2.843 and the mag length is 2.910.
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#6497802 - 10/16/16 02:30 PM Re: Feeding issues with Berger VLD [Re: watchale]
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I load the 105gr VLD at 2.850" overall length and have no feeding problems with a semi-custom 243 with Oberndorf bottom metal and magazine.

It could be that with your setup the cartridge is releasing late from the magazine feed lips causing the bullet to ride tip high into the chamber. I've had that problem before using detachable magazines that would need the feed lip angle adjusted to work smoothly.
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#6497833 - 10/16/16 02:58 PM Re: Feeding issues with Berger VLD [Re: watchale]
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Make sure when you load the mag the brass is all the way to the back if there a little forward sometimes that can cause feeding issues

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#6497851 - 10/16/16 03:11 PM Re: Feeding issues with Berger VLD [Re: watchale]
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Originally Posted By: watchale
Hmmm. Alright, I was just trying to get close to the lands. Im new to loading and have a lot to learn lol. Coal is 2.843 and the mag length is 2.910.


I just got off the phone with a friend who loads Bergers for a 700. He said that anything over 2.800" has feeding problems at times. You might want to run a few through the seating die and seat them a tiny bit deeper, cycle them trough the action, and see if that helps.

FWIW, the "rule" that Bergers don't like to be "jumped" a bit doesn't always hold water. There are a lot of folks loading them to magazine length (me for one) and are having great results. I don't remember offhand how much my Creedmoor loads are off the lands but it is a lot more than most people think is appropriate for the VLD and the gun shoots cloverleafs.
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#6498132 - 10/16/16 06:32 PM Re: Feeding issues with Berger VLD [Re: watchale]
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It depends on each rifle,but I load any hunting load where it fits and functions out of the magazine first. Then worry about the COAL. I shoot 140gr hunting VLD's with my 6.5-06 and they are seated .150" off the lands,and still shoot 5 shot groups in the .300"-.400" range off a bench.
My Creedmoor's like the bullet seated .010" off the lands,but that's still well under magazine length.


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#6498157 - 10/16/16 06:52 PM Re: Feeding issues with Berger VLD [Re: watchale]
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What mag?
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#6498180 - 10/16/16 07:05 PM Re: Feeding issues with Berger VLD [Re: watchale]
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Thanks for the information fellas up I'll see if I can get it worked out.
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#6498182 - 10/16/16 07:05 PM Re: Feeding issues with Berger VLD [Re: watchale]
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#6498223 - 10/16/16 07:32 PM Re: Feeding issues with Berger VLD [Re: watchale]
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I see allot of guys running their bolt like its a race, watching the TV shows it seems like part of the "show" to see how fast you can rack it."Tacticool"

Many people try to rush the bolt cycle and "short" cycle it. Maybe that's it?? run the bolt slowly and deliberately, see if it improves?

just my 2cents
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#6498267 - 10/16/16 07:56 PM Re: Feeding issues with Berger VLD [Re: watchale]
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Originally Posted By: watchale
AI mag


That means you can tune th Mag. You'll have to establish what is happening, and go from there. Sometimes you need to make the cartridges sit more nose up at he top of the Mag. Widen the I.D. of the Mag lips toward the front and/ or narrow them toward the rear.
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#6498280 - 10/16/16 08:06 PM Re: Feeding issues with Berger VLD [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: watchale
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That means you can tune th Mag. You'll have to establish what is happening, and go from there. Sometimes you need to make the cartridges sit more nose up at he top of the Mag. Widen the I.D. of the Mag lips toward the front and/ or narrow them toward the rear.


This might help up I'm working the bolt right now and they look to be slanted downward a lil
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