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#6496271 - 10/15/16 09:08 AM 308 Win ELD-X 178 gr
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Worked up a load that shows some potential

Tikka CTR 308
20" factory barrel with suppressor
Lapua virgin brass
CCI BR2
43.8 gr Varget
0.030" jump

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#6496286 - 10/15/16 09:23 AM Re: 308 Win ELD-X 178 gr [Re: RedSnake]
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It does show some potential. Keep working on it, you are getting close. smile


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#6496383 - 10/15/16 10:34 AM Re: 308 Win ELD-X 178 gr [Re: RedSnake]
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Tikkas shoot good . cheers
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#6497218 - 10/15/16 10:25 PM Re: 308 Win ELD-X 178 gr [Re: RedSnake]
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Is that a hot load ? Hornady data says max at 42.4 of Varget for 178 eld-x. I tried to use the same data as Amax and was blowing primers at 43.5 out of a AR10. Ended up at 41.6

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#6497246 - 10/15/16 10:57 PM Re: 308 Win ELD-X 178 gr [Re: RedSnake]
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It's above book max for Hornady. Hodgkin lists 45 g as max for both 175/180 bullets albeit those listed are not the eld-x. Nosler lists 43.5 as max. But, no pressure signs in my gun -- no primer flattening or cratering. No stiff bolt. As always start low and work up.
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#6497356 - 10/16/16 06:20 AM Re: 308 Win ELD-X 178 gr [Re: RedSnake]
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Did you go even hotter than that?

Seen more than one .308 shoot great between 44.0 and 45.0 of Varget with 178 A-Maxes.
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#6497433 - 10/16/16 08:27 AM Re: 308 Win ELD-X 178 gr [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Did you go even hotter than that?

Seen more than one .308 shoot great between 44.0 and 45.0 of Varget with 178 A-Maxes.


Yep. Worked up to 44.4 in .2 increments without any pressure signs
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#6497920 - 10/16/16 04:17 PM Re: 308 Win ELD-X 178 gr [Re: RedSnake]
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The Amax data shows up to 45. That's why I started with 43.8 with the ELD-X. Happy spot for Rem R25 was at 44.6 with Amax. Was hard to find data for ELD for a while. Working up load for buddys Les Baer custom with essentially same specs at The R25. Loaded 43.8 to 44.6 by .2. First 43.8 blew primer. Thought OK bad something on my part. Sent second round and no blown primer but pressure signs out the wazoo. Went back and deconstructed all had built. Went to 42.4 and built another test group. Pressure at 42.4. Took all those apart. By then Hornady had published some ELD data that says 42.4 max (varget) on ELd-x 178. Went to 41.4 and built again. Found sweet spot at 41.6.

Keeping in mind this was with AR's and supressed. Out of the Les baer (and lead sled) was getting .255 groups at 100 yards. Did not test out past 100 as I was only the get it rolling huckleberry.

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#6497965 - 10/16/16 04:45 PM Re: 308 Win ELD-X 178 gr [Re: RedSnake]
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I believe the bearing surface of the 178 eld-x is quite a bit longer than the Amax.

My initial ladder done with Hornady brass had a node at around 41.5 and then 44.2 -- I started over when I switched to Lapua brass and high node ended up at 43.8 after working from 42.0-44.4 in .2 increments.
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#6497986 - 10/16/16 05:12 PM Re: 308 Win ELD-X 178 gr [Re: RedSnake]
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Gotcha. Thanks for the dope....Currently loaded ladder for 300WM with the 200 grainers. H4831 71.2 to 72.2 Looking forward to firing them off tomorrow and see where that's at.

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#6499079 - 10/17/16 11:37 AM Re: 308 Win ELD-X 178 gr [Re: RedSnake]
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Looks like I'm done

43.8 gr Varget with 0.030 jump



Edited by RedSnake (10/17/16 10:46 PM)
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#6499283 - 10/17/16 01:48 PM Re: 308 Win ELD-X 178 gr [Re: RedSnake]
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Yeah buddy!

Makes me so proud. grin
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#6499375 - 10/17/16 02:35 PM Re: 308 Win ELD-X 178 gr [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Yeah buddy!

Makes me so proud. grin


Thx, Coach!
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#6500109 - 10/17/16 10:15 PM Re: 308 Win ELD-X 178 gr [Re: RedSnake]
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Originally Posted By: RedSnake
Looks like I'm done

43.8 gr Varget with 0.30 jump



Looks good, you meant .030 jump?

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#6500144 - 10/17/16 10:46 PM Re: 308 Win ELD-X 178 gr [Re: RedSnake]
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Yes 0.030 jump
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