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#6494945 - 10/14/16 08:51 AM Knockdown power is a myth
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Much has been written on the topic from both handgun and rifle perspectives.

The current issue of Deer and Deer Hunting magazine includes a good, thought-provoking article that addresses the issue.
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#6494994 - 10/14/16 09:22 AM Re: Knockdown power is a myth [Re: Texas Dan]
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I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that my 3/4 ton pickup has plenty of knockdown power. But bullets? Not so much.
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#6495005 - 10/14/16 09:27 AM Re: Knockdown power is a myth [Re: Texas Dan]
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Shot placement. Good placement, good results. Bad placement, not so good results.
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#6495009 - 10/14/16 09:30 AM Re: Knockdown power is a myth [Re: Texas Dan]
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You really love that magazine...

I can just point my 300 UltraMag in the general direction of the deer and they fall down from the percussion alone rofl
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#6495016 - 10/14/16 09:33 AM Re: Knockdown power is a myth [Re: stxranchman]
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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Shot placement. Good placement, good results. Bad placement, not so good results.


I shot a doe this past weekend with my weatherby.

I'll save the details but my rifle was shooting way high (later confirmed on paper)

I missed one doe trying a neck shot then shot the next one right behind the shoulder, bullet hit and knocked her stone dead. When I got down there it clipped the top of her back. I'm convinced that the sheer speed of the weatherby round sent enough shock to kill her, had it been my .270 I think she would have got up and ran off



Moral of the story.....shoot a weatherby
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I think the deer hunting shows and "Bro' Country" are going to be the downfall of this once-great nation.

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#6495022 - 10/14/16 09:36 AM Re: Knockdown power is a myth [Re: txtrophy85]
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Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Shot placement. Good placement, good results. Bad placement, not so good results.


I shot a doe this past weekend with my weatherby.

I'll save the details but my rifle was shooting way high (later confirmed on paper)

I missed one doe trying a neck shot then shot the next one right behind the shoulder, bullet hit and knocked her stone dead. When I got down there it clipped the top of her back. I'm convinced that the sheer speed of the weatherby round sent enough shock to kill her, had it been my .270 I think she would have got up and ran off



Moral of the story.....shoot a weatherby

Moral of the story.....learn to sight your rifle in before you go on a hunt so you can put the bullet where it needs to be. Not after you whiff a few shots...... grin
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#6495029 - 10/14/16 09:37 AM Re: Knockdown power is a myth [Re: stxranchman]
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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Shot placement. Good placement, good results. Bad placement, not so good results.


Fully agree

If you want a deer to drop right there then shoot the CNS like we do with a high shoulder shot.
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#6495036 - 10/14/16 09:42 AM Re: Knockdown power is a myth [Re: stxranchman]
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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Shot placement. Good placement, good results. Bad placement, not so good results.


Margin of error doesn't change?
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#6495043 - 10/14/16 09:47 AM Re: Knockdown power is a myth [Re: Texas Dan]
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I always aim for the ham and try to clip the artery the bigger the bullet the better.
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#6495046 - 10/14/16 09:48 AM Re: Knockdown power is a myth [Re: Texas Dan]
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I've dropped plenty of deer, big deer with a .243, several from 200+ yards. Shot placement

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#6495055 - 10/14/16 09:52 AM Re: Knockdown power is a myth [Re: txshntr]
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Originally Posted By: txshntr
You really love that magazine...

I can just point my 300 UltraMag in the general direction of the deer and they fall down from the percussion alone rofl


Percussion?

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#6495058 - 10/14/16 09:53 AM Re: Knockdown power is a myth [Re: kdkane1971]
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Originally Posted By: kdkane1971
Originally Posted By: txshntr
You really love that magazine...

I can just point my 300 UltraMag in the general direction of the deer and they fall down from the percussion alone rofl


Percussion?



My gun is musical rofl
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#6495062 - 10/14/16 09:55 AM Re: Knockdown power is a myth [Re: MckinneyRifleHunter]
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Originally Posted By: MckinneyRifleHunter
I've dropped plenty of deer, big deer with a .243, several from 200+ yards. Shot placement


There are a lot of kids that have done the same. IMO, the key is to shoot what you feel comfortable with and concentrate on shot placement.

And for TT85...check your zero trout
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#6495127 - 10/14/16 10:37 AM Re: Knockdown power is a myth [Re: txshntr]
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Originally Posted By: txshntr
Originally Posted By: MckinneyRifleHunter
I've dropped plenty of deer, big deer with a .243, several from 200+ yards. Shot placement


There are a lot of kids that have done the same. IMO, the key is to shoot what you feel comfortable with and concentrate on shot placement.

And for TT85...check your zero trout
i think smaller calibers just get a bad reputation because they are what most of the young ones use and they can be more likely to make a bad shot (disclaimer some kids can outshoot me) I'm just one of those people who never upgraded because I never had a problem taking deer down with it.

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#6495144 - 10/14/16 10:50 AM Re: Knockdown power is a myth [Re: stxranchman]
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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Shot placement. Good placement, good results. Bad placement, not so good results.


I shot a doe this past weekend with my weatherby.

I'll save the details but my rifle was shooting way high (later confirmed on paper)

I missed one doe trying a neck shot then shot the next one right behind the shoulder, bullet hit and knocked her stone dead. When I got down there it clipped the top of her back. I'm convinced that the sheer speed of the weatherby round sent enough shock to kill her, had it been my .270 I think she would have got up and ran off



Moral of the story.....shoot a weatherby

Moral of the story.....learn to sight your rifle in before you go on a hunt so you can put the bullet where it needs to be. Not after you whiff a few shots...... grin


I'm gonna pull my all my rifles out next week and take them to the range. I have a .270 that I sighted in back in 01' that I never have had to mess with since.

I put the weatherby up last year and this year it was shooting 5" high and 2" left.... Can't explain it, didn't drop it, to my knowledge it didn't get bumped....maybe someone messed with it playing a joke on me
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I think the deer hunting shows and "Bro' Country" are going to be the downfall of this once-great nation.

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