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Re: So I'm hunting in the back of my property next to a fence line
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10/13/16 02:23 PM
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ChadTRG42
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2 Things- shot placement, and the right bullet.
Shot placement- Like stated, a good high shoulder shot will help anchor them on the spot. But a solid hit in the shoulder or vitals can also do this.
Right bullet- IMO, the best bullet for immediate incapacitation is the Berger VLD-H bullet. It is crazy nasty on critters. I have loaded ammo for several TV hunting shows, and these bullets have worked best for them to drop animals on the spot. The bullet least likely to anchor an animal on the spot would be a Barnes solid copper bullet. Animals often run longer distances with these bullets after being hit. Also, the higher the velocity, the more shock and more temporary wound cavity, which helps incapacitate. A 270 with a 100 grain or 130 grain bullet would help accomplish this.
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Re: So I'm hunting in the back of my property next to a fence line
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10/13/16 03:02 PM
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If you aren't reloading, I've had good luck with Federal Premium BTSP 165gr and Remington Core Lokt 165gr out of my 30-06. For whatever reason, my 30-06 prefers 165gr bullets over 150s. The neck shots and high shoulder shots I've taken have laid them in their tracks every time. Now that I'm reloading for my new 7wsm, the Berger VLD (as Chad said) works great as well. This year alone, I've dropped a buck, a doe, and 3 pigs in their tracks. Pick a good hunting bullet that your rifle likes, and off you go.
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Re: So I'm hunting in the back of my property next to a fence line
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10/14/16 04:48 AM
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Re: So I'm hunting in the back of my property next to a fence line
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10/14/16 02:13 PM
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2 Things- shot placement, and the right bullet.
Shot placement- Like stated, a good high shoulder shot will help anchor them on the spot. But a solid hit in the shoulder or vitals can also do this.
Right bullet- IMO, the best bullet for immediate incapacitation is the Berger VLD-H bullet. It is crazy nasty on critters. I have loaded ammo for several TV hunting shows, and these bullets have worked best for them to drop animals on the spot. The bullet least likely to anchor an animal on the spot would be a Barnes solid copper bullet. Animals often run longer distances with these bullets after being hit. Also, the higher the velocity, the more shock and more temporary wound cavity, which helps incapacitate. A 270 with a 100 grain or 130 grain bullet would help accomplish this.
I'm curious about your Barnes Copper bullet comment. I've used them with great success for DRT shots. I'm not saying you're incorrect; it would just be great if you could expound on that a bit and help us understand why. Thanks
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Re: So I'm hunting in the back of my property next to a fence line
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10/14/16 05:49 PM
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Heavy bullet and high shoulder but it sure does waste meat.
�A hunt based only on the trophies taken falls far short of what the ultimate goal should be.� -Fred Bear
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Re: So I'm hunting in the back of my property next to a fence line
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10/16/16 09:23 PM
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There's hardly a difference in a 270 and 30 06. Take the advice of the guys on here about neck and high shoulder shots. As for hunting a fence line, well we all have our opinions about that. Not illegal but not neighborly either
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Re: So I'm hunting in the back of my property next to a fence line
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10/17/16 03:06 AM
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I tell my two son (10) to aim where the shoulders start to become the neck, he's shooting a 6.5CM (140gr) and nothing has walked away yet. When he was younger he was shooting an AR 15 (handloaded 62gr barnes TSX) and he dropped a few with it also using the shoulder/neck junction shot.
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Re: So I'm hunting in the back of my property next to a fence line
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10/17/16 03:49 AM
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HuntingTexas
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Shoot the rifle that you shoot the best.
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Re: So I'm hunting in the back of my property next to a fence line
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10/17/16 04:07 AM
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2 Things- shot placement, and the right bullet.
Shot placement- Like stated, a good high shoulder shot will help anchor them on the spot. But a solid hit in the shoulder or vitals can also do this.
Right bullet- IMO, the best bullet for immediate incapacitation is the Berger VLD-H bullet. It is crazy nasty on critters. I have loaded ammo for several TV hunting shows, and these bullets have worked best for them to drop animals on the spot. The bullet least likely to anchor an animal on the spot would be a Barnes solid copper bullet. Animals often run longer distances with these bullets after being hit. Also, the higher the velocity, the more shock and more temporary wound cavity, which helps incapacitate. A 270 with a 100 grain or 130 grain bullet would help accomplish this. Chad's 165 Sierra Game Kung loads in 308 are hyper accurate and brutal on game. Can't imagine it would not be just as good in a 3006.
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Re: So I'm hunting in the back of my property next to a fence line
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10/17/16 02:20 PM
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redchevy
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2 Things- shot placement, and the right bullet.
Shot placement- Like stated, a good high shoulder shot will help anchor them on the spot. But a solid hit in the shoulder or vitals can also do this.
Right bullet- IMO, the best bullet for immediate incapacitation is the Berger VLD-H bullet. It is crazy nasty on critters. I have loaded ammo for several TV hunting shows, and these bullets have worked best for them to drop animals on the spot. The bullet least likely to anchor an animal on the spot would be a Barnes solid copper bullet. Animals often run longer distances with these bullets after being hit. Also, the higher the velocity, the more shock and more temporary wound cavity, which helps incapacitate. A 270 with a 100 grain or 130 grain bullet would help accomplish this.
I'm curious about your Barnes Copper bullet comment. I've used them with great success for DRT shots. I'm not saying you're incorrect; it would just be great if you could expound on that a bit and help us understand why. Thanks Mono metal bullets like barnes, nosler e-tip, hornady GMX usually have less expansion, less shock, and a smaller wound channel. My experience is similar to chads, if you do not hit the spine or similar with mono metal bullets get ready for a long cruddy blood trail. Not true for all copper bullets and calibers, but its as good as stereotyping.
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