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#6492216 - 10/12/16 10:58 AM Ir Light
Dalep Offline
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Registered: 02/02/16
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I booked a hunt in Georgia in pecan fields. Apparently covered up in hogs. The guide offers ARs with thermal. My mission is to use my rifle (just on one hog then switch to semi-auto goodness) so I'm ready to buy entry level night vision. I've all but decided on the ATN x-sight. The guide says the shots are all within 100yds so I am looking for an affordable IR light for out to 100yds roughly. I don't want to spend $200 for a light on a $600 scope of I can avoid it.

Thanks for any help,
Dale

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#6492236 - 10/12/16 11:16 AM Re: Ir Light [Re: Dalep]
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Loc: Forestburg, Montague Cnty, TX
Simple...
https://smile.amazon.com/Evolva-Future-T...ywords=ir+light

And a mount. Could be any 1" scope ring you have laying around extra or something like...
https://smile.amazon.com/Olight-Offset-M...ight+rail+mount

I like these. They are offset and you don't need a tool to get them on or off.
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#6492278 - 10/12/16 11:40 AM Re: Ir Light [Re: Dalep]
Dalep Offline
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Registered: 02/02/16
Posts: 149
Well that was easy! Awesome! Thank you very much

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#6492316 - 10/12/16 12:07 PM Re: Ir Light [Re: Dalep]
Dalep Offline
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Registered: 02/02/16
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Any projected issues mounting it on a bolt action? It's a 308 savage hog Hunter. I remember reading something about eye relief could be a problem and first review on Amazon says was recoil sensitive on a 308 bolt

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#6492599 - 10/12/16 02:54 PM Re: Ir Light [Re: Dalep]
CharlieCTx Offline
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Registered: 05/27/13
Posts: 776
Loc: Flower Mound, TX
I would highly recommend saving some coin and buying an entry level thermal first. The X-Sight works (I have one and it's been on a .308 AR) and with a good illuminator you can see pretty well. The issue is the weapon mounted illuminator also illuminates the smoke from your round, making a quick followup shot or even a quick survey if you hit, very difficult. I gave up and bought an entry Thermal.

I was out Sat night with a Night Vision Monocular and my Thermal Monocular. Missed an oppty to shoot my first Bobcat as I never saw him with the NV, but he was easily seen with the Thermal when I picked it up. He walked down into a ravine by the time I got my rifle up.

There's a post here from not too long ago showing what I'm talking about.

Charlie

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#6492665 - 10/12/16 03:48 PM Re: Ir Light [Re: Dalep]
Double Naught Spy Online   content
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Charlie, while thermal would be superior in most hunting (not necessarily for navigating) circumstances, entry level thermal costs more than the whole rifle and entry level night vision setup, potentially more than for 2. It can be hard for folks to justify spending that kind of money for limited hunting opportunities or before they have ever gotten a chance to go. Thermal really is a significant investment.

Then there are those who would point out that entry level thermal is nothing compared to high end thermal. You can always find something better. This issue really becomes how much you are willing to spend and willing to risk.

However, maybe a better choice for Dalep would be to do a one time rental of thermal from Tyler (bearclaw) over at Ultimate Night Vision. He could have thermal for his special hunt and then decide is it is worthwhile to save up the money for his own unit.
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#6492704 - 10/12/16 04:16 PM Re: Ir Light [Re: Dalep]
Dalep Offline
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Registered: 02/02/16
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I really appreciate all the input guys! I actually did a hunt with high end thermal in April of this year. It was awesome but the amount I'll use it I can never justify the cost. That said, $600 for something I may use 5 times a year is easier to swallow for sure. You still have your xsight and want to sell it Charlie?:)

As for follow up shots, I'll likely be using it on my bolt action rifle exclusively. We don't have the sounders of hogs like I see in a lot of videos. Where I hunt I may see 5 pigs on camera at most. I really like the idea I can use the scope during the day hunts to record hunts as well. I'll be on a javelina hunt in February plus all the deer hunting I do here. Unfortunately with the recent hurricane it'll be weeks at least before I can even reach hunting area do to the water being 6' high where I hunt

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#6492807 - 10/12/16 05:13 PM Re: Ir Light [Re: Dalep]
CharlieCTx Offline
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Registered: 05/27/13
Posts: 776
Loc: Flower Mound, TX
I'm in the usual group, said IR-NV was all I needed...

Then I bought the NVM14 NV Monocular used ($1,000). You'll likely end up with a Monocular as looking through the scope all the time gets REALLY old. Then I bought the ATN-OTS Thermal Monocular used ($2k), hey why not try a Thermal Monocular? Got really frustrated with the above mentioned X-Sight problems and bought a base model used Thor for $2,200 from a THF member. It's not the quality of what DNS uses with his videos, but it is Thermal. Do you see a pattern here?

Dalep

I thought the X-Sight would be a really cool day scope to, for the reasons you said, until the batteries died while I was squeezing the trigger on the biggest buck I ever would have shot. I kid you not. My Leupold doesn't need batteries. smile

I will sell you my X-Sight. I sent it back to ATN as it was intermittently shutting off when I would shoot. I expect they'll send a new one vs repair, we'll see. I'll let you know when I get it back if it's somehow repaired or a new replacement.

I did do a couple of rentals from UNV as well, highly recommended.

Charlie

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#6492871 - 10/12/16 05:57 PM Re: Ir Light [Re: Dalep]
Dalep Offline
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Registered: 02/02/16
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No joke, I'm planning to make the purchase in first of November (taking the fiancé to Disney the 20th which isn't cheap) so if you get it back I'd happily buy yours.

Your horror story does worry me lol. The scope dosnt have low battery indicator? Maybe it'll end up as only a night vision scope...

Maybe I need to learn the hard way but... My savage is a $400 gun. One day I will end up with a AR10 build that will deserve a "proper" scope. Currently the misses and I are trying to spend our money on experiences and trying to limit toy spending. Counting down the 11 months to Scotland hunt:)

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#6492972 - 10/12/16 07:18 PM Re: Ir Light [Re: Dalep]
John Humbert Offline
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Registered: 12/13/10
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You can RENT a thermal for a weekend, week, or a season. Something you might want to check into to for this hunt.

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#6493372 - 10/13/16 05:00 AM Re: Ir Light [Re: Dalep]
Dalep Offline
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Registered: 02/02/16
Posts: 149
I looked at rentals but saw for 3 days it was $200-400. If I'm worried about having high end optics I can just use the guns provided by the guide. I'm not prepared to spend a large chunk of cash on higher end scope and if rent a scope it can be used towards a purchase but end result will be me buying a sub $1000 scope.

I really do appreciate the input and hard push for getting a better scope. Maybe I'm dumb but if it's the case, I'll have to learn the hard way. If I decide I need to upgrade I may lose a couple hundred dollars but will sell on eBay. The purchase of a high dollar scope isn't in the cards so I'll at least get a year of use out of it

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#6493413 - 10/13/16 06:34 AM Re: Ir Light [Re: Dalep]
TX.Hunter.K.Lewis Offline
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Registered: 09/30/16
Posts: 41
Loc: Haslet, Texas
I have an XSIGHT II 5-20. I use a Flash Hider / Brake combo as well as locate my light forward and below the Flash Hider / Brake. Makes for an excellent shot and screen distortion is minimal.
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#6493451 - 10/13/16 07:28 AM Re: Ir Light [Re: Dalep]
Dalep Offline
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Posts: 149
I greatly appreciate the tip!

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#6493526 - 10/13/16 08:18 AM Re: Ir Light [Re: Dalep]
Eyesofahunter Online   content
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Registered: 01/11/15
Posts: 177
Loc: Hill Country of Texas
If you end up with the X sight invest in a small external battery pack and let the scope run off it instead of eating up your internal batteries. I struggled with the power issue for months and months started using the external and never had power issue again. Put a stock pack on and keep battery in it and run the cable to the scope and you are good to go.

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#6493605 - 10/13/16 09:08 AM Re: Ir Light [Re: Dalep]
TX.Hunter.K.Lewis Offline
Light Foot

Registered: 09/30/16
Posts: 41
Loc: Haslet, Texas
Yeah I have that. Works well.
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--- 1/9 Twist, 16 Inch Wylde Chamber Bushmaster Upper with BCG and Charging Handle 250 dollars
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