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 Re: Academy gun clerks, who hires these people
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10/12/16 01:41 AM
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Not sure why anyone would buy a long range rifle at Academy anyway.
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Re: Academy gun clerks, who hires these people
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10/12/16 02:21 AM
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Not sure why anyone would buy a long range rifle at Academy anyway. 
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Re: Academy gun clerks, who hires these people
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10/12/16 02:43 AM
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I've bought three guns from academy and one of the times I said here is a my chl he said that doesn't change anything I just need a your drivers license, then he told me it was illegal to do a 4473 electronically and had lots of other bad advice and the store manager came and was just as bad, one of the employees there thinks that he's a god and he will constantly give bad info.
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Re: Academy gun clerks, who hires these people
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10/12/16 01:09 PM
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Not sure why anyone would buy a long range rifle at Academy anyway. Because they can save money on a perfectly capable rifle.
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Re: Academy gun clerks, who hires these people
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10/12/16 01:53 PM
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For the most part they are thin on knowledge and quick with questionable advice.
As for customer service, I went to the new store in Lubbock a few weeks ago, and a guy spent some time going to the back to find a box for me that would fit the case I bought for shipping. He checked the gun room to no avail and then went to the dock area and finally found one. Thanks to that guy for being a good, helpful employee!
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Re: Academy gun clerks, who hires these people
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10/12/16 04:21 PM
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Re: Academy gun clerks, who hires these people
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10/12/16 04:33 PM
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The Army doesn't teach any better than that? My dad was USMC and I knew how bullets dropped on a basic level before puberty.
I went to buy some binoculars that were on sale at Academy and ended up standing behind two idiots that spoke little english asking for a rifle that would shoot a "half mile"
The guy was irritated, said they will all move a bullet that far but it is up to you what you can hit. They didn't savvy, and were wasting everyone's time, so I shouted out, "hey, I just want to look at things 1/2 mile away, can you please hand me those Redfield binoculars over there? If something looks good through those then I will know to move closer for a shot"
Everyone but the two idiots got a laugh.
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Re: Academy gun clerks, who hires these people
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10/12/16 04:51 PM
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The Army doesn't teach any better than that? My dad was USMC and I knew how bullets dropped on a basic level before puberty.
I went to buy some binoculars that were on sale at Academy and ended up standing behind two idiots that spoke little english asking for a rifle that would shoot a "half mile"
The guy was irritated, said they will all move a bullet that far but it is up to you what you can hit. They didn't savvy, and were wasting everyone's time, so I shouted out, "hey, I just want to look at things 1/2 mile away, can you please hand me those Redfield binoculars over there? If something looks good through those then I will know to move closer for a shot"
Everyone but the two idiots got a laugh. they do teach a lot about basic rifle marksmanship and go into detail about the trajectory of the bullet. I'm assuming this guy was a supply clerk or something of that sort or maybe he just didn't pay any attention throughout his career
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Re: Academy gun clerks, who hires these people
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10/12/16 05:44 PM
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I waited on quite a few current military members at Cabela's. My impression was they were no different than civilians when it came to firearms. They ran the gamut from knowing a lot to knowing next to nothing.
Don’t roll those bloodshot eyes at me.
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Re: Academy gun clerks, who hires these people
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10/12/16 06:06 PM
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One day they're assigned to women's apparel, fishing the next and guns on the 3rd day. Most don't even have outdoor experience. Academy just hires a breathing being to ring up sales.
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Re: Academy gun clerks, who hires these people
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10/12/16 06:36 PM
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One day they're assigned to women's apparel, fishing the next and guns on the 3rd day. Most don't even have outdoor experience. Academy just hires a breathing being to ring up sales. I think this is the central issue. They hire clerks to complete transactions all day and don't care if they know anything about the products. As aggravating as it is for us, I'm not sure we can reasonably expect much more for that type of job. It irritates me to listen to some of the crap they tell people, but I'm like most others here and do my own research before I go and rely on that rather than the gun counter clerk.
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Re: Academy gun clerks, who hires these people
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10/12/16 09:16 PM
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again , if you are going into an Academy to "talk" guns, reloading, optics, fishing, hunting, etc. you need to get back in your car and get back to work or get a life.
you go there to look and buy, not bull chit
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Re: Academy gun clerks, who hires these people
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10/12/16 10:53 PM
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I have no issue with it. The people that listen to them are just as dumb as the clerks. They can have at it.
I go, I buy, I leave.
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Re: Academy gun clerks, who hires these people
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10/12/16 10:58 PM
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One time I went in and heard the same clerk telling someone two whoppers:
A) Savage actions and Weatherby Vanguard actions are the same
B) The 45/70 was originally developed as a pistol round because it was a straight case.
I had to just back away slowly....
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Re: Academy gun clerks, who hires these people
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10/13/16 12:16 AM
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The only real concern I have is customers being given advice that could get them killed. If I heard it where I worked I know it happens at Academy.
Don’t roll those bloodshot eyes at me.
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Re: Academy gun clerks, who hires these people
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10/13/16 12:54 AM
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There's a dude at one North Texas Academy store that looks like a transgender Jonah Hill.
Haha yea I polished that thing for hours.
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Re: Academy gun clerks, who hires these people
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10/13/16 01:00 AM
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I worked at an academy for about 6 months when i was 18, left because i realized there was nothin for me to learn there other than I needed a much higher paying job.
Im no guns and ammo expert, but I could give better advice to people asking questions than anyone else that worked in the huntin and fishing department. If I didnt know then i would say "sorry sir, I dont know enough about that to advise you"
And yes, sadly, I seem to expect that our military soldiers would know better. Same thing here. Worked in the store for 2+ years and corporate office for 2 years. got instantly hired for hunting when they gathered that I hunted and shot my whole life. One "old-timer" I worked with was so ignorant, but would flat out lie. I called him out and corrected him everytime I heard him do that. He didn't like me much. I truly believe they need to go to a commission system for the gun counter. They would have a better chance at getting and retaining competent sales staff.
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Re: Academy gun clerks, who hires these people
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10/13/16 01:06 AM
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I waited on quite a few current military members at Cabela's. My impression was they were no different than civilians when it came to firearms. They ran the gamut from knowing a lot to knowing next to nothing. I had the same experience with the Cabelas gun counter guys in Allen.
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Re: Academy gun clerks, who hires these people
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10/13/16 01:58 AM
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Unfortunately, thedoveshooter, a commission system in that kind of environment could foster even more misinformation (lies) just to make a sale. With the big box stores and cheaper prices any hope of finding knowledgeable help behind the counter is pretty much gone.....well, maybe not in cosmetics or lingerie.
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Re: Academy gun clerks, who hires these people
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10/13/16 06:00 AM
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I waited on quite a few current military members at Cabela's. My impression was they were no different than civilians when it came to firearms. They ran the gamut from knowing a lot to knowing next to nothing. I had the same experience with the Cabelas gun counter guys in Allen. Some of the gun counter people know a lot, some know next to nothing. The Fort Worth store used to have quite a few knowledgeable people. Now they have almost none. I cannot argue with your premise.
Don’t roll those bloodshot eyes at me.
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Re: Academy gun clerks, who hires these people
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10/13/16 11:43 AM
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On multiple occasions I have tracked down somebody who got terrible info from the gun counter guy and helped them out. More often than not it's a lady buying a present for her husband. I listed to one guy tell a woman that steel shot shotgun shells were the best option for shooting sporting clays. He was selling her hevi-shot.
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Re: Academy gun clerks, who hires these people
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10/13/16 01:21 PM
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Benelli is the lightest recoiling shotgun.
Vortex blows Nightforce out of the water.
7mm Remington Mag is the minimum for deer.
Don’t roll those bloodshot eyes at me.
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Re: Academy gun clerks, who hires these people
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10/13/16 01:36 PM
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As others have said, I know what I want before I go into a Cabelas, Academy, Bass Pro, etc. I do not go there to fact find, I go there to buy something. What do you guys expect for what they pay those guys?
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Re: Academy gun clerks, who hires these people
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10/13/16 01:38 PM
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I have no issue with it. The people that listen to them are just as dumb as the clerks. They can have at it.
I go, I buy, I leave. You have hit the nail right square on the head, there. If I want good advice, I ask here at THF, or at an honest to Gawd gun shop. (Which we all really should be supporting)
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Re: Academy gun clerks, who hires these people
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10/13/16 04:28 PM
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Benelli is the lightest recoiling shotgun.
Vortex blows Nightforce out of the water.
7mm Remington Mag is the minimum for deer.  Ive read some of those same opinions here!
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