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#6475793 - 10/01/16 09:01 AM 6 month old English Pointer pups. What simple things should I be doing
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I'm wanting to work with my 5-6 month old pointer pups some. What things do you recommend? I'm looking for some simple, basic exercises that will benefit them when I get them on wild birds. What have you personally found to be productive and worthwhile.

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#6475827 - 10/01/16 09:30 AM Re: 6 month old English Pointer pups. What simple things should I be doing [Re: pharmvet]
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Teach them to come when called. Take them walking and keep them to the front. That's assuming that you have already socialized them.
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#6475853 - 10/01/16 09:51 AM Re: 6 month old English Pointer pups. What simple things should I be doing [Re: bill oxner]
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Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Teach them to come when called. Take them walking and keep them to the front. That's assuming that you have already socialized them.
This!
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#6475859 - 10/01/16 09:55 AM Re: 6 month old English Pointer pups. What simple things should I be doing [Re: pharmvet]
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Yes, they are socialized. So far I have taken them out walking with me like you mentioned. I have shot a 22 pistol around them when we are out walking. Yesterday for the first time I tied them out for about 20 min while I washed out the kennel.

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#6475926 - 10/01/16 11:27 AM Re: 6 month old English Pointer pups. What simple things should I be doing [Re: pharmvet]
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#6475931 - 10/01/16 11:32 AM Re: 6 month old English Pointer pups. What simple things should I be doing [Re: pharmvet]
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Walking with them so that they go with you, is one of the best things you can do.
You could start whoa post training. Could start them on a training collar, but I would be careful here--it is really easy to screw up a dog with these. If you are going to train on wild birds, pass everything that is not pointed. Work on crate manners. Flick the dog on the nose or slam the crate door at them when they try to bold out of the kennel. U should be able to get them remain in the crate until release. This gets the dog to understand you are the alpha--letting a dog bolt out of the crate and begin hunting without permission is a good way to start a hunt and dog on a downhill slide.

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#6476038 - 10/01/16 01:43 PM Re: 6 month old English Pointer pups. What simple things should I be doing [Re: pharmvet]
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leave off the frigging e-collar, introduce them to noise, like above get them coming to you.
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#6476107 - 10/01/16 03:00 PM Re: 6 month old English Pointer pups. What simple things should I be doing [Re: colt45]
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Originally Posted By: colt45
leave off the frigging e-collar, introduce them to noise, like above get them coming to you.


I concur. Too much, too soon. You can take them hunting when season starts. I've shot a lot of birds over 6 to 8 month pups.
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#6476142 - 10/01/16 03:40 PM Re: 6 month old English Pointer pups. What simple things should I be doing [Re: pharmvet]
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I would say put the shock collar on but don't use it. Get him use to wearing it and not become collar wise.
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#6476144 - 10/01/16 03:40 PM Re: 6 month old English Pointer pups. What simple things should I be doing [Re: pharmvet]
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As, I said I'd be careful using a e-collar. I start dogs on the collar after they have been on the whoa post for 3-5 weeks at low or med 1 constant on a garmin 550. on their flank. The collar becomes a substitute for the check cord on the flank at the whoa post. Most people run into problems on the collar because they only use it to correct rather than communicate. They don't see any higher levels until I start to take away the chase when they have already seen a lot of birds and are staunch.
It is just a tingle (I test on myself first.) I really don't use the collar much after the dog learns to whoa other than to whoa them -- this can be often be done in the field at level 1, but it depends on the dog.
Also, the first three or four times the dog points, just flush the birds.
Then, the next couple of points have a buddy stand away from the dog and shoot.


Edited by Mundo (10/01/16 03:50 PM)

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#6476719 - 10/02/16 06:36 AM Re: 6 month old English Pointer pups. What simple things should I be doing [Re: pharmvet]
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I would start them fetching, at least a ball. You have an advantage because you have two pups.
When one does something right, pile the praise on him. The other dog will often try to get in on that by copying his mate.
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#6476752 - 10/02/16 07:53 AM Re: 6 month old English Pointer pups. What simple things should I be doing [Re: pharmvet]
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Took some tips from a friend of mine that does some training and started getting them used to being tied and to give to collar pressure. Shredded a checkerboard pattern in hay meadow behind kennels to work them on birds a bit later. I really wish I had a functioning Johnny house. I have access to flight conditioned birds. Got a blank pistol, bird bag and quail harness on the way. Having lots of fun with all this.






Edited by pharmvet (10/02/16 07:55 AM)

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#6476766 - 10/02/16 08:11 AM Re: 6 month old English Pointer pups. What simple things should I be doing [Re: pharmvet]
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I built several Johnny houses. It took me just a few hours and cost under $200. I checked my first pasture and found that I had to mow double. I did figure 8s after that.

Here is a look inside of my last Johnny house.

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#6476773 - 10/02/16 08:20 AM Re: 6 month old English Pointer pups. What simple things should I be doing [Re: pharmvet]
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Where can I find plans for a Johnny house?

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#6476834 - 10/02/16 09:05 AM Re: 6 month old English Pointer pups. What simple things should I be doing [Re: pharmvet]
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Originally Posted By: pharmvet
Where can I find plans for a Johnny house?


I'll post some on this thread after I do a few chores.
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