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#6463373 - 09/22/16 10:01 AM Suggestions on how to remove a scope base
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I have a Remington 700 with a two piece Burris scope base. I am trying to replace it with a pic. rail. Problem is that the screws are soft metal and are stripping out when I try to remove them. Any suggestion on how to get them out? They may have been put in with loctite by the previous owner.

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#6463384 - 09/22/16 10:08 AM Re: Suggestions on how to remove a scope base [Re: JESmith]
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Put a heat gun or propane torch to the screws to try to loosen up the loctite. Then try to unscrew them the best you can. If they strip out, you will have to drill/tap them out. I've had to do this multiple times. It's not fun, and is tedious. I've tried the reverse drill bits that remove stripped screws, but it often does not work. I normally have to drill the screw head off and then drill the threaded part stuck in the action out, very carefully. If you damage the action threading, you will have to tap them to a larger threading (like from a #6 to a #8) threading, which can be a better anyway.
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#6463576 - 09/22/16 12:03 PM Re: Suggestions on how to remove a scope base [Re: JESmith]
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That is always my fear when mounting a scope on an older rifle. I think that back in the day some people used red loctite. I double cringe when the screws are Allen head.
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#6463876 - 09/22/16 03:29 PM Re: Suggestions on how to remove a scope base [Re: JESmith]
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The tip of a soldering iron held to the screw head will also help if they're red lok-tited in. Good luck with it!
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#6463902 - 09/22/16 03:41 PM Re: Suggestions on how to remove a scope base [Re: JESmith]
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Using a very skinny base, make an L from steel wire, apply the heat through the wire to the inside based of the screws, this leaves the slot/torx intact, and applies the heat where the loctite or torque is holding.

You can also work the screw tighter/looser/tighter/looser in small increments.

Of course make sure the bit perfectly fits the head of the screw before starting


If trying the soldering iron, I'd use a screwdriver that matched the tip as the heat source rather than the screw
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#6463948 - 09/22/16 04:13 PM Re: Suggestions on how to remove a scope base [Re: JESmith]
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Vernon, can you expand on the soldering iron trick for me? Never heard of doing that.
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#6463974 - 09/22/16 04:30 PM Re: Suggestions on how to remove a scope base [Re: Slow Drifter]
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Originally Posted By: Slow Drifter
The tip of a soldering iron held to the screw head will also help if they're red lok-tited in. Good luck with it!


It would seem the trick here is knowing how long to keep the soldering iron in contact with the screw head so the heat doesn't expand too much to the area around the screw.

I wonder if adding the step to cool the screw quickly with an ice cold screwdriver tip might help even more.
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#6463994 - 09/22/16 04:46 PM Re: Suggestions on how to remove a scope base [Re: JESmith]
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Drill the head off. then use a vice grip to get the shank of the screw and you should be able to turn it
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#6464019 - 09/22/16 05:02 PM Re: Suggestions on how to remove a scope base [Re: JESmith]
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have you soaked them in kroil penetrating oil a couple days first? this could do it before completely stripped or heated
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#6464567 - 09/23/16 12:29 AM Re: Suggestions on how to remove a scope base [Re: JESmith]
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I've gotten stripped Allen screws out on more than one occasion with a torx driver. Find one you can wedge in the hole, and sometimes it will bite and work for you.
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#6464747 - 09/23/16 08:22 AM Re: Suggestions on how to remove a scope base [Re: JESmith]
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when using heat or any penetrating oil, give the screw a soled tap, sometimes this will help
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#6464941 - 09/23/16 10:31 AM Re: Suggestions on how to remove a scope base [Re: HorizonFirearms]
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Originally Posted By: HorizonFirearms
Drill the head off. then use a vice grip to get the shank of the screw and you should be able to turn it


Are you saying cut the base off first so you can get to the shank?
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#6465041 - 09/23/16 11:55 AM Re: Suggestions on how to remove a scope base [Re: Tff caribou]
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Originally Posted By: Tff caribou
I've gotten stripped Allen screws out on more than one occasion with a torx driver. Find one you can wedge in the hole, and sometimes it will bite and work for you.

I actually saw a gunsmith tap the driver with a hammer, so that it actually cut into the head. Hammering may have also cracked any loc-tite. He made it look easy.

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#6465310 - 09/23/16 02:59 PM Re: Suggestions on how to remove a scope base [Re: JESmith]
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#6465472 - 09/23/16 05:25 PM Re: Suggestions on how to remove a scope base [Re: booradley]
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Originally Posted By: booradley
Originally Posted By: HorizonFirearms
Drill the head off. then use a vice grip to get the shank of the screw and you should be able to turn it


Are you saying cut the base off first so you can get to the shank?


No, when you drill the head off all you have left is the shank/stud. Nothing is holding the base. But there is not much to grip, 1/8" take or give.
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