For guys who sent their applications to the NFA in January/February, yes. However, I guarantee that a wait of 5-6 months is not the case for those who sent in their paperwork in June or later. 41F has caused the volume of applications to skyrocket, so there is no way that wait times are going to stay the same.

NFA tracker is pretty much useless right now since the NFA has received many times more stamp applications in the last few months than they were getting back in January. We won't have accurate data for wait times on recent applications until they start sending back stamps from June.

My guess is the wait time of 12-14 months is a lot more accurate than 5-6. You can't look at the past and use it as a predictor of the future when the volume of applications back then was nowhere near what it is today.

I agree with ttuhunter. Silencer Shop posted this pic on July 12th around when the law was changed...a huge stack of forms were sent out to get approved, so wait times are probably going to stretch out longer.

So realistically, I would be looking at next Christmas time for any purchase made today...

Hey honey, I found next years Christmas present...

Unfortunately yes, but it is what it is. Ask anyone who has suppressors, they are addictive and totally worth it. I'll also give you some advice if you decide to purchase. 1. Get a .22 suppressor for the pure fun factor of it, and 2. Get a can that will go on multiple calibers so it isn't just dedicated to one gun.

I had to wait about 5 months last year, but it's one of those things you buy and try to forget about it while you wait. I don't know about others, but it was worth the wait for me. I get a big ol grin every time I shoot now.

true but as of July 13 2016 all new applications/ tax stamps will require all members of the trust or any new members added to be finger printed and sent in with your 200 payment, but there is no longer a requirement for an LEO signature on any type of app, so doing a trust is ALMOST moot.....

Except for the fact that as an individual if you own a suppressor you are the only one who can possess it. That means technically if you leave it at home with your wife she is in violation of the law (I know, long shot but still). Also that means if you die, that suppressor is in limbo until it is legally transferred again. So really, other than the additional fingerprinting requirement, a trust is still the way to go. That is just me though, I'd prefer for my family to have access to use these items and legally possess them, not just me. I'm also not looking to add a suppressor every other month. If I add anymore it will be a couple at the same time.

WOW thats alot of info. Not sure im that gung ho about making my ar15 or ar10 that quiet. Dont want to spend that much just to make the gun look cool either. The pigs dont seem to care and die just as fast. If it was scary quiet i would go the cost but from all the posts its still loud enough to scare the game.

I set up a trust, bought a suppressor and paid $200 stamp fee the first week of March. Called the ATF yesterday to check status and they replied "pending". Really wanted to hunt suppressed this season for hearing protection. Shooting suppressed also makes for a better neighbor when sighting in or hunting in rural areas, especially at twilight on a Sunday morning.

Subsonic .300 blackout can be used to hunt pigs and it is pretty dang quiet, and scary quiet with a bolt gun. Silencerco makes some 220 gr subs that shoot an inch group at 100 yrds. With supersonic ammo it is still significantly quieter, especially to the shooter.

My friend, and I am no expert says that his 308 with a suppressor sounds like a car door being slammed shut. Now that's a lot more quite than just shooting one, but no where near what it is in the movies.

Subsonic ammo, you will likely only hear the firing pin hitting the primer, then the impact downrange a few seconds later. Supersonic ammo you hear but the sound is down range and not so much at the muzzle. Hard to describe but you aren't hearing the "boom" of the rifle, just the "crack" downrange. It is very odd the first time you hear either.

Here is a video of .22 suppressed vs. non suppressed. Not a great comparison since I didn't shoot the supersonics through the can but you can at least hear the difference in the two.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmb8j1w3jy4

I have an integrally suppressed .308 bolt gun and is freaky quiet with subsonic ammo. The round smacking their skull is louder than the shot itself



I've gotten spoiled with it and only hunt with suppressed rifles now. Just had a .300 Blackout Built that is also integrally suppressed

Check out Silencerco's 220 subs for the .300 blk, they are pretty awesome.

I was shooting mine a few months back. My dad was approximately 150 yards away, at a 90 degree angle from my bench and trajectory, with a tree line between us. Slight breeze blowing towards him. He said he couldn't hear the gun being fired, all he heard was the ping of the steel plate.

My brother was directly behind me, 50 yards away, inside the trailer watching TV. He said he never heard a shot.

If you are shooting a bolt gun with subs out of a 300 blackout, the noise is literally only the firing pin and then the round hitting its target. You can't hear it at 30 yrds much less 100. Just the impact, which is quite loud when there is no boom associated with it. If you are shooting an AR, you will only hear the noise of the bolt cycling.

Yes, I went with a trust but days after the law changed so of course had to get my teenagers fingerprinted/pictures taken all of that...there is no more CLEO sign off BUT you are supposed to take a copy of everything to your local CLEO and drop it off with them (according to the new instructions). I asked the question if CLEO is not signing that they have received a copy of your paperwork what is the actual point of taking it over there? Are they actually keeping all of these hard copies on file or just throwing them in the trash? Anyway, whatever...

How loud is a 300 subsonic?

Here is an old video I made.

Video

From 65 yards you can't hear much...

Downrange video

It would be tough to go back to loud guns. Doubles and triples are much more common than shooting hogs without a can. Deer can at time be oblivious to it as well.

Agreed

Mine isn't quite that quiet. Sounds a bit quieter than a .22 when it goes off, but it's definitely quiet enough that you can hear the impact. I'm running a 10.5" barrel on an AR platform. A 220 grain projectile leaving a small space at high velocity is going to make more noise than just the bolt cycling.

Shooting mine all I hear is the sounds of moving parts, nothing else. The noise from the bullet is no different, the action of a semi auto is. I'm shooting 16 in barrels on both but bolt and AR either way. I've had bullets that claimed to be subs end up going supersonic and sound similar to what you are describing, but with true subs it just isn't there. It still sounds like you are dropping a text book on the floor from waist level but nothing sounding like a gunshot.

Well, 1010fps is faster than I can throw a softball, so I'll call it high velocity.

Saw your edit, that very well may be the case, that I got some rounds that are going supersonic. It was a borrowed suppressor that I was using, once I get mine out of purgatory I'll try it with several different manufacturers.

The thing that blew my mind the most shooting supersonic vs subsonic was the time it took for the bullet to get to 100-200 yrds. It seemed like forever with the subs. The only thing I've shot lately is silencerco and hornady subs if that makes a difference. None of the silencerco's went SS but a couple of the hornady's did. Good luck on getting your can out of jail and enjoy it when you do.

Here's a video with audio taken from a game cam. I was about 165 yards and the cam was 5 yards in front of the pig. I was using a 6.5G with an Omega.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stWIyXr0yO4&feature=youtu.be

There is a trick to getting subs quiet, or quieter. For example, I have several loads with the same bullet for an AR-15 vs a bolt gun. In an AR-15, you need to fill the case up with a slower burning powder to make the action cycle. In a bolt gun, all you need is the bullet going subsonic, so less powder of a faster burning powder will be quieter, and make the round more efficient to shoot better. The bolt gun load developed for my bolt gun is quieter than the AR-15 load, since the bolt gun load has less powder (i.e.- less bang!).

Also, not all suppressors are created equal. There are several I have shot that were louder, even with subs. Plus, I run a 300 Win Mag magnum size can, which has more volume, and is quieter than a smaller volume suppressor.