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#6461464 - 09/20/16 11:47 PM 6.5-284 Powder Choice
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H1000 or Retumbo

Which do you prefer in a 6.5-284 cartridge when chasing higher velocity with a 140 grain bullet? Would like a temperature stable powder that can achieve 2950 fps from a 26" barrel. It looks like Retumbo has the velocity edge in the Berger manual but I don't have any firsthand experience with either of these powders.

Thanks! Brandon

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#6461467 - 09/20/16 11:51 PM Re: 6.5-284 Powder Choice [Re: Brandon S.]
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I have been using H4831 but wanting to try a few others some time. H1000 is getting some good marks from the long range shooters and thinking about trying it. Reloader 23 and 26 are worth a look as well.
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#6461478 - 09/21/16 12:30 AM Re: 6.5-284 Powder Choice [Re: Brandon S.]
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Short action or a long action rifle? How far can you seat the bullet out in your rifle?
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#6461630 - 09/21/16 08:05 AM Re: 6.5-284 Powder Choice [Re: Brandon S.]
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H4831SC worked very well for me with 140 Hybrids. 51.9 grains lit with a BR2 primer and Norma brass. The H1000 or Retumbo may be too slow and seating issues may occur due to full case fills in short actions.

3 round group at 300 yards.
http://imgur.com/a/rIqDD



Edited by Big Stan (09/21/16 11:43 AM)

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#6461662 - 09/21/16 08:20 AM Re: 6.5-284 Powder Choice [Re: ChadTRG42]
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Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
Short action or a long action rifle? How far can you seat the bullet out in your rifle?


Long Action
2.530" ogive (touching lands); ~3.167" COAL

These measurements are with a Berger 140 VLD-H.


Edited by Brandon S. (09/21/16 08:28 AM)
Edit Reason: Added Bullet Info

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#6461670 - 09/21/16 08:25 AM Re: 6.5-284 Powder Choice [Re: Brandon S.]
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Nice shooting Stan!

What kind of velocity are you all getting with H4831?

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#6461726 - 09/21/16 09:07 AM Re: 6.5-284 Powder Choice [Re: Brandon S.]
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Retumbo will yield you the highest velocity. With the long action and seating the bullet out far, you can cram a lot of powder in the case. Work up to your rifle's max pressure, and then work just under that area for top speed.
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#6461749 - 09/21/16 09:24 AM Re: 6.5-284 Powder Choice [Re: Brandon S.]
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I will give it a go this weekend if I can find some powder. Thanks for the tip!

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#6461967 - 09/21/16 11:45 AM Re: 6.5-284 Powder Choice [Re: Brandon S.]
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Originally Posted By: Brandon S.
Nice shooting Stan!

What kind of velocity are you all getting with H4831?


Thanks Brandon, sorry on my last post I had the grain charge wrong, it was for my Creedmoor. The correct charge I am using for the 6.5 x 284 is 51.9 grains. The velocity is 2950 with 27 inch barrel.


Edited by Big Stan (09/21/16 11:48 AM)

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#6462012 - 09/21/16 12:16 PM Re: 6.5-284 Powder Choice [Re: Brandon S.]
Brandon S. Offline
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That's great speed with H4831. I will give that one a try if the Retumbo doesn't work out. I found a pound of Retumbo so will try that this weekend.

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#6462243 - 09/21/16 02:24 PM Re: 6.5-284 Powder Choice [Re: Brandon S.]
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Originally Posted By: Brandon S.
That's great speed with H4831. I will give that one a try if the Retumbo doesn't work out. I found a pound of Retumbo so will try that this weekend.


Keep us posted on your results. Good luck.

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#6462371 - 09/21/16 03:31 PM Re: 6.5-284 Powder Choice [Re: Brandon S.]
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I was running Retumbo in my 6.5 x 284 but switched to H4831SC. I am getting 3050 out of a 26'' Bartlein with 140 Hybrids

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#6462402 - 09/21/16 03:50 PM Re: 6.5-284 Powder Choice [Re: Brandon S.]
Brandon S. Offline
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Wow! I originally discounted H4831 because of my perceived lack of velocity with that powder. I am running a 26" Bartlein as well and would be very happy with 2950-3050 fps. I just got the rifle back from the gunsmith so I will get to work this weekend with Retumbo and post back results. Were you running a magnum primer with Retumbo or standard?

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#6464354 - 09/22/16 08:44 PM Re: 6.5-284 Powder Choice [Re: Brandon S.]
okierifleman Offline
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I am using regular 210's with that load. I got up to 3100 but had a little sticky bolt so I backed it down a bit.

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#6464527 - 09/22/16 11:12 PM Re: 6.5-284 Powder Choice [Re: Brandon S.]
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Retumbo for velocity hands down. I've run all the powders listed here in my 6.5x284 long action with 140's. Retumbo yielded 3000 fps in my 24" barrel with Nosler AB's. I also had great results with H1000 and Berger VLD's, but didn't get the velocity of the Retumbo.

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