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#6458072 - 09/18/16 10:48 PM Retrieving help
johnboy91 Offline
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Registered: 11/05/12
Posts: 252
Hey guys have a question my lab has been force fetched and is pretty good at what I want him to do on water but for some reason dove hunting he won't wait for the send command he just burst out when he sees the bird falling! Idk what to do I don't want to lose more control than I already have
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#6458182 - 09/19/16 06:48 AM Re: Retrieving help [Re: johnboy91]
Ol_Yeller Offline
Tracker

Registered: 11/04/10
Posts: 998
Loc: Palo Pinto
Put him on a lead and don't give him the reward of a retrieve if he doesn't do what you want.
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#6458303 - 09/19/16 08:28 AM Re: Retrieving help [Re: Ol_Yeller]
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Registered: 08/05/09
Posts: 1327
Loc: Fate, TX
Originally Posted By: Ol_Yeller
Put him on a lead and don't give him the reward of a retrieve if he doesn't do what you want.


This. I'm not sure how old your dog is, but he's not steady. He's breaking and that can be very dangerous for him.
It's your responsibility to handle your dog, so put the gun down and let your buddies shoot until you get this fixed.
The way I see it, you have two options:
1. Put a lead on him, tie him to a tree with enough slack so that he doesn't choke himself wanting to go. If he moves, whines or breaks...you go pick up the bird. If he sits there quietly, like a good citizen, you let him pick it up.

2. Leave him at home during hunts, and work on this problem at home...AKA, train him to do what you want and fix the problem. Practice the good behavior you want.

I lean towards option #2, but that's me.

It will take time, but I bet he'll figure it out.


Edited by Mud Shark (09/19/16 08:30 AM)
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#6458578 - 09/19/16 11:00 AM Re: Retrieving help [Re: Mud Shark]
johnboy91 Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 11/05/12
Posts: 252
Originally Posted By: Mud Shark
Originally Posted By: Ol_Yeller
Put him on a lead and don't give him the reward of a retrieve if he doesn't do what you want.


This. I'm not sure how old your dog is, but he's not steady. He's breaking and that can be very dangerous for him.
It's your responsibility to handle your dog, so put the gun down and let your buddies shoot until you get this fixed.
The way I see it, you have two options:
1. Put a lead on him, tie him to a tree with enough slack so that he doesn't choke himself wanting to go. If he moves, whines or breaks...you go pick up the bird. If he sits there quietly, like a good citizen, you let him pick it up.

2. Leave him at home during hunts, and work on this problem at home...AKA, train him to do what you want and fix the problem. Practice the good behavior you want.

I lean towards option #2, but that's me.

It will take time, but I bet he'll figure it out.




Thank you sir I will try this he is a year and six months I guess I kinda just got excited about having him back and wanted to hunt him
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#6458677 - 09/19/16 11:53 AM Re: Retrieving help [Re: johnboy91]
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Registered: 01/03/08
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You say he does what you want on water. Is he steady on water?

Steady is the issue. Maybe just the gun going off. But this needs to be taken care of in training and not in the field.

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#6459030 - 09/19/16 03:46 PM Re: Retrieving help [Re: johnboy91]
johnboy91 Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 11/05/12
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He is steady over water I teal hunted with him before the dove hunt the day before and he didn't move until I sent him on the lake
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#6459102 - 09/19/16 04:41 PM Re: Retrieving help [Re: johnboy91]
kman2017 Offline
Light Foot

Registered: 03/03/16
Posts: 46
Loc: Jersey Village
Mine has a similar issue. I have tied him to something with a little room so if he tries to bolt, he feels it.

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