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Nocturnal Whitetail... #6441002 09/06/16 11:46 PM
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We have tried getting this deer from several different areas putting game cameras and this is the only place we get him and it is only at night. He is an excellent deer but we cannot figure out where he hangs out on our place. Does anyone else have deer that only show their faces at night like this?



Re: Nocturnal Whitetail... [Re: Upland007] #6441078 09/07/16 12:27 AM
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Saw one like that 3 years ago on our place just before daylight, have not sen him since. He is a nice one!

Re: Nocturnal Whitetail... [Re: Upland007] #6441198 09/07/16 01:40 AM
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Helicopter mid day maybe lol but that's a lot to find one buck haha

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Maybe some of the HF bashers will chime in - to them, it should be easy to find him.

Beautiful buck, sir. He will slip up one day up texas

Re: Nocturnal Whitetail... [Re: Upland007] #6442226 09/07/16 06:43 PM
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Haha... That is why I decided to post it in the exotic section to stay away from all of the negativity.

Thanks,

Re: Nocturnal Whitetail... [Re: Upland007] #6442285 09/07/16 07:17 PM
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He has to be drinking water, so I would move TC's around to water. Hide the camera very well and put it up higher facing downward. You might try to put a TC perpendicular to a trail so it is facing back to the trail about 20' away. Put a pile of corn in the trail that the TC is aiming at. If the site line back to the TC is narrow the buck will not see the TC since he will be looking at the corn. I did this on bucks that were hard to find. I found a lot of travel routes on bucks that way which allowed us to set up and rattle in those bucks. One thing I started doing on a ranch in South Texas was taking a 2x6 block of wood the size of a TC and paint it the same color as the TC. I would then hang that block of wood on everyfeed pen fence. The deer got used to them and I could hang the TC on that block. The amount of bucks/deer I got on TC went way up.
I had a buck that I could see every time I fed the roads he would move off the road no more than 50 yards from the truck sometimes but I could not get him on any TC pics at the feeders. He would see the camera, hear it or see the flash and go to another feeder. One day he was feeding on the road I had just fed when I was heading back in. Where he walked off the road I stopped and hid a TC camera in a tree and fed with road feeder in that spot , then left. Went back later that evening picked up the TC and took the film(1995) to get it processed. I finally had 6 pics of that buck after 3 yrs of trying.
Deer see anything new around a feeder and react to it. I did a test with at TC at a corn feeder at my house. I was amazed at how the deer reacted to a TC tied to the feeder leg. Got almost no pics the first night when I would see 15-20 deer at the feeder. That night only 7 pics and very few deer. The can smell the TC and you. The can see the red glow of the IR. I know than can here the "ping" sound some of the TC's make as they take a picture, when I had better hearing I could here it myself on the older TC's. On my TC now I put black tap over the flashing red light that shows when there is movement in front of the TC. Some deer just react to anything new or different and that does not matter how high or low the fence is.


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Re: Nocturnal Whitetail... [Re: Upland007] #6442574 09/07/16 09:43 PM
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Stx has some good ideas. I would put up a camera farther along the trail that he is coming from and try to "back track" him to learn where he is hitting the fence at. From there, you might be able to narrow down his core bedding area and from there, you can figure out where he is watering and what food source he is using.

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A whitetail buck that big is pretty dang exotic as far as I am concerned.


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Do you ever get pictures of him leaving the same direction he entered the area from, or are all of your pictures of him from behind?


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Re: Nocturnal Whitetail... [Re: Upland007] #6448753 09/12/16 04:57 PM
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You'll find him dead sooner or later assuming your high fence is good.



Re: Nocturnal Whitetail... [Re: Upland007] #6449148 09/12/16 09:07 PM
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Them big ones are mostly nocturnal & hard to find. It's how they get big!

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Originally Posted By: maximus_flavius
Them big ones are mostly nocturnal & hard to find. It's how they get big!


That's what I've read many times, that once a buck reaches a certain age, he goes totally nocturnal, except during the rut. Should he survive long enough to stop having an interest in breeding, you'll never see him in daylight.


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Originally Posted By: Texas Dan
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Them big ones are mostly nocturnal & hard to find. It's how they get big!


That's what I've read many times, that once a buck reaches a certain age, he goes totally nocturnal, except during the rut. Should he survive long enough to stop having an interest in breeding, you'll never see him in daylight.


^^ I agree but will add that they will move during very cold fronts. When night temps are extremely cold so that it makes them bed down for the night. They will have to move around during the day to eat and drink. Some of the best bucks I have killed was in extreme cold. Usually 2-3 days in. My speculation is that the first 1-2 days they will bed all of that time waiting for warmer temps. After 1-2 days they have to move around. My biggest buck was killed around 2:30pm and the high temp was 6 degrees.

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Them big ones are mostly nocturnal & hard to find. It's how they get big!


That's what I've read many times, that once a buck reaches a certain age, he goes totally nocturnal, except during the rut. Should he survive long enough to stop having an interest in breeding, you'll never see him in daylight.


^^ I agree but will add that they will move during very cold fronts. When night temps are extremely cold so that it makes them bed down for the night. They will have to move around during the day to eat and drink. Some of the best bucks I have killed was in extreme cold. Usually 2-3 days in. My speculation is that the first 1-2 days they will bed all of that time waiting for warmer temps. After 1-2 days they have to move around. My biggest buck was killed around 2:30pm and the high temp was 6 degrees.


Makes sense.


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Grid the place with cameras.

Re: Nocturnal Whitetail... [Re: Upland007] #6449992 09/13/16 01:20 PM
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Like STX said water would be my first thought. In the past have put cameras on our tank and its always been disappointing. In the midst of the drought a few years ago a water trough on a float was our best picture producer though.


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ive had up to 5 cameras at one time running on trails and fence crossings on my little 50 acre place and was never able to find out how the old buck I was chasing was coming or going. I could never backtrack him further than about 50 yards from the camera. frustrating to say the least.


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Grid the place with cameras.


if your pockets are deep enough this is an option for sure.


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If I send my neighbors a text and ask them to give me feedback on my lawn and plant rye into a giant dong pattern, I'm probably going to get some less than positive feedback. Same goes here.
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They get 5.5 looking in the water and seeing there reflection scares them..

He will slip up


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My only other advice would be wait till the New Moon and be around that location. Most every nocturnal buck I ever encountered, You could only see them during daylight hours on the day before the new moon, the day of and the day after...

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Grid the place with cameras.


if your pockets are deep enough this is an option for sure.


Nothing will elevate my BP and spin me out of control worse than a Game Cam lately bang

I'm slowly and surely phasing out Game Cam's roflmao


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Grid the place with cameras.


if your pockets are deep enough this is an option for sure.


Nothing will elevate my BP and spin me out of control worse than a Game Cam lately bang

I'm slowly and surely phasing out Game Cam's roflmao


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How big is the pasture? Just asking because the pic is him walking the fence.


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If you have a few cameras, put them in trail camera mode to snap a pic once every couple of minutes. You can position them to cover more ground vs hoping he's close enough to the camera to trip the pic.

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I suppose you could clear cut the property... bolt




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